Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

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Re: Luongo will Waive NTC If Asked To

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dbr wrote: Doc I don't think the Panthers want to make a deal where they net about $5.9m in salary.
I don't know about that Dave.

The Cats have a lot of money to spend right now.

They have dropped Sturm($2mil), Wolski($4mil), Clemmensen($1.2mil), Santorelli($1.6mil).

That's $8.8mil on 4 useless players.

Samuelsson($2.5mil) is also coming off the books as well as Bradley ($950).

Those two arguably earned their keep.

The point is their core is intact with only RFAs Kulikov/Versteeg/Ellerby to re-sign (3 mil total in raises?).

Florida fans have been wondering where they're gonna spend all this extra cash (they talk about Semin a lot).

The Cats aren't a salary floor team, they were ~ $55mil last year... and are obviously going to increase that this year.

The only bad contracts they have are Jovo($4.1mil) and Upshall($3.5mil).

It's not the end of the world if they keep those, if Upshall stays healthy he's worth that imo.

They're sitting at ~ $38mil, so they've got ~ $20mil to spend.

About $8mil will go towards re-signing Kulikov/Versteeg/Ellerby imo.

That leaves the $12mil for 3 depth forwards, a depth defenseman, and a goalie.

They can afford Lou without taking a salary back.
dbr wrote: I'd take Matthias pretty happily but I think we are stuck with Upshall or someone like that as well. As such Petrovic and a 2nd does not do it for me, I'd need that to be a first rounder or I'd ask them to add Drew Shore or someone like that.
I believe Petrovic and Shore are of fairly equal value.

And yes I'd take Upshall if they upgraded to a 1st.

So we're on the same page I believe:

Luongo... for... Petrovic/Shore + Matthias + Upshall + 1st. :thumbs:

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Lou's cap hit may be too low for the Panthers now.
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Bernier has asked the Kings to trade him. The Kings will try to oblige, once Quick's contract is set, per Strickland.

This doesn't help Luongo's trade value.

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lolTopper^^
clem wrote:Bernier has asked the Kings to trade him. The Kings will try to oblige, once Quick's contract is set, per Strickland.

The plot thickens.

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Burke, Chitown, Edm will be all over that.

The Quicker Bernier is the dealt the better it is for the Canucks. :thumbs:
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mpp wrote: What I don't get in this proposition is that Bjugstad et al. are not NHL proven and we need someone proven, yet Petrovic is "da shit" after having played a bunch of AHL games. :eh: Yes, he's a good prospect. What he is not, is a centerpiece of a trade involving Luongo.
I have maintained all along that Bjugstad is a better prospect than Petrovic.

So like wot da fock dude?

As to whether or not the asshole Petrovic is a centerpiece of a trade involving Luongo

.... I could see it.

Florida fans are saying the Cats won't give up Petrovic in a Luongo trade.

You're saying it's not enough (even with Matthias + 2nd round pick).

We shall see.
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Hockey Widow wrote:A deal that the Canucks will likely match unless it is so crazy it gives us 4, 1st round picks. A deal that we can afford to match unless it s so crazy it gives us 4, 1st round picks. A deal, that if we don't match because it is so crazy it gives us 4, 1st round picks, leaves us with that scrub Luongo in net. YA, I'd say an offer sheet is something we should worry about.

Exactly, the only team actively interested in Luongo that would have the money to do that (that is, throw well over 5 million at CS) is Toronto and if Burke does that he strips the team of picks again, like he did for Kessel, for one player, and if it's a one year deal the Canucks could probably deal with it and address a long term deal with CS later. If that happened, Burke would look desperate (yes, of course he is, but he hates to look that way) and since the Canucks would probably match what kind of message would that send to his goalies: "guys, you two suck so bad I'd rather give a 7 million dollar contract to a guy who has yet to play 40 games in one season...not...going...to...happen

Yes, this is the Toronto media fantasy network at it again. It's funny how Burke likes to say there is a lot of pressure on players playing in Toronto. I think it's the opposite, the media is part of the team; they're doing all they can to do the work for them.
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SKYO wrote:lolTopper^^
clem wrote:Bernier has asked the Kings to trade him. The Kings will try to oblige, once Quick's contract is set, per Strickland.

The plot thickens.

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Burke, Chitown will be all over that.
One would think Burkie would think twice about handing the reins to two young goalies after last season's fiasco.

Chicago, yes. NJ, absolutely.

Whoever gets him had better make sure they have an experienced goalie who can handle most of the starts next season.

Bernier is not ready to be a #1 in the NHL.... yet.
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Strangelove wrote:
SKYO wrote:lolTopper^^
clem wrote:Bernier has asked the Kings to trade him. The Kings will try to oblige, once Quick's contract is set, per Strickland.

The plot thickens.

https://twitter.com/andystrickland
Burke, Chitown will be all over that.
One would think Burkie would think twice about handing the reins to two young goalies after last season's fiasco.
Good point, if BB really wants his team in the playoffs next season, he'll do what it takes and stop being so god damn stubborn and pony up the goods to finally get a proven #1 goalie.
Dave Nonis should be more assertive to get a deal done.
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SKYO wrote:Dave Nonis should be more assertive to get a deal done.
LOL, are you kidding?

The only think Dave wants to get done is a....

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ODB wrote:
SKYO wrote:Dave Nonis should be more assertive to get a deal done.
LOL, are you kidding?

The only think Dave wants to get done is a....

'royale w/cheese'
ahaha

Was just thinking about how Nonis traded for Luongo before.

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Perhaps there will be a deal before July 1st after all.

To quote Bob McK quoting Dreger, "dialogue continues between FLA and VAN on Luongo. Not so much TOR and VAN. FLA frontrunner."

Also:
- Santorelli & Bradley waived; Bradley to be bought out, not sure about Santorelli; FLA is all about real money, so...
- Jovo goes on the radio saying how Luongo is a top 5 goalie in the league and will be for 4-5 years to come.

...that last part might be a coincidence but it can't really mean anything bad to Vancouver, can it? Also, kudos to Jovo. Luongo was not top 5 goalie last season, but it's really sad how undervalued he has become in the last couple of months.
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ODB wrote:
SKYO wrote:Dave Nonis should be more assertive to get a deal done.
LOL, are you kidding?

The only think Dave wants to get done is a....
So the guy with the earing is Dave, but who is the Dude driving?

I know it's wrong but I chuckle every time CrzyCanuck refers to Burke & Nonis as... "the cheeseburger brothers"!! :lol:
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Strangelove wrote:
So the guy with the earing is Dave, but who is the Dude driving?
He works at CBC and is consulting Dave on the goal tending decision, I think Burke once referred to him as the "Goaltender of the Future"

:eh:
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vic wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
So the guy with the earing is Dave, but who is the Dude driving?
He works at CBC and is consulting Dave on the goal tending decision, I think Burke once referred to him as the "Goaltender of the Future"

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vic wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
So the guy with the earing is Dave, but who is the Dude driving?
He works at CBC and is consulting Dave on the goal tending decision, I think Burke once referred to him as the "Goaltender of the Future"

:eh:
Well they did both famously have their wallet stolen..
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