Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

[Strangelove]

If they could get a return like the Flyers got for either of Carter and Richards I would trade him.

The Canucks need to get some young blood especially up front. I personally think Kesler isn't going to be as productive of a player as he has been the past couple seasons before this one. His body is beat to shit he has had two surgeries on his hip now and apparently a shoulder operation coming up. I would definitely look around and see what teams would offer for him.

BTW Kesler turns 28 on Aug 31 and his NTC kicks in next season. I am not his biggest fan as some people know. That said I can't deny when he is on he can be a great player. I just think his balls out style is taking a severe toll on his body.

Good Gawd Blob, we need MORE assholes, not less!

Folks should treasure their assholes methinks.

Keep Kess, Burr, Lappy, Kass, Bitz, Weise, Lou, Bieksa, Rome, maybe Higgs & Hans.

Get rid of everyone else (one Sedin to Edmonton, the other to Florida) especially nice-guys AV and GMMG.

[Orcasfan]

Kesler isn't going anywhere. The guy looks emaciated after a year of not training, is only 12 months removed from a 40+ goal season and is only 26. The lineup to get a hold of him would be 29 teams long.

If they could get a return like the Flyers got for either of Carter and Richards I would trade him.

The Canucks need to get some young blood especially up front. I personally think Kesler isn't going to be as productive of a player as he has been the past couple seasons before this one. His body is beat to shit he has had two surgeries on his hip now and apparently a shoulder operation coming up. I would definitely look around and see what teams would offer for him.

BTW Kesler turns 28 on Aug 31 and his NTC kicks in next season. I am not his biggest fan as some people know. That said I can't deny when he is on he can be a great player. I just think his balls out style is taking a severe toll on his body.

Yes, please! to that young stud C! Let's look at the situation with our cenyres. Henrik will be 32 in Sept. He probably has at least two more years left in the tank at his elite level. Kesler will never develop into a real elite centre on the first line. And then what/who? The only centre in the prospect pool with talent is Schroeder. Can we expect him to actually become that 1st line C? I doubt it. So, I would think that this is the exact right time to trade for a young, offensive-stud C. We will then have a couple of years to develop him into Henrik's successor. If it all happens, in 2-3 years, Henrik and young guy become 1 and 1A C's. Kesler can drop down to 3rd C (if he doesn't improve from this year). The question is - who is out there?

[Knucklehead]

[/quote] Henrik and young guy become 1 and 1A C's. Kesler can drop down to 3rd C (if he doesn't improve from this year). The question is - who is out there? [/quote]


Perhaps we can pry that Coho kid out of Buffalo and leave his dad there.

[dbr]

Just spitballing here..

I can't help but wonder if Blue Jackets ownership are regretting inking James Wisniewski to such a big deal last year. They signed him (and went out and got Jeff Carter) in order to finally ice a more complete, competitive roster around Rick Nash and it has completely blown up on them. Carter wanted out, now Nash wants out and they've got another offensive defender in Jack Johnson - but they still owe Wisniewski twenty five million dollars over five years, and they are not likely to be needing to spend to the cap in that period while they go back to the drawing board after they deal their captain.

I wonder, if they were offered a switch for another defender earning less money on a shorter deal (who is still capable of playing relatively big minutes) would they pull the trigger and walk away happy?

Is James Wisniewski (a right-shooting, right side defenseman who is talented enough to produce some pretty good numbers and who it should be noted is an asshole) more likely to earn his $5.5m cap hit than Keith Ballard is to earn his $4.2m?

He's not exactly known for his reliable play in his own zone, but heck Ballard can't seem to get off the third pairing either..

[mathonwy]

I don't watch enough BJ hockey to have any comment on Wisniewski. I actually find the whole situation a bit weird. Was Wisniewski a real coveted free agent or were the BJ's desperate and artificially inflated his value?

His name really wasn't mentioned all that much until he got signed.

Watching the Flyers/Devils last night was super entertaining. The Flyers have some very young legs led by Giroux and they are my prediction to win the SC. That being said, there's a player on that team called Jakub Voracek and the CBC guys were saying that Voracek is a player that Nash really misses. From a hockey fantasy point of view, I will have to concur as there was some definite chemistry between the two players.

I will have to say that in the entire NHL, the Flyers are one of the big market teams that have done it right. Holmgren has made some pretty crazy-like-a-fox moves that have paid off massively.

If Pronger was playing on that team, they would be pretty unstoppable (even at 75%). As it stands, the only way they can not win the SC is Bryzgalov.

[Jovocop]

If Pronger was playing on that team, they would be pretty unstoppable (even at 75%). As it stands, the only way they can not win the SC is Bryzgalov.

Or Bettman, if he decides another team should win the cup...

[vic]

The Canucks need to move Kesler back to the wing, get a center for him and whoever is on the other side.

I'd still love to see J. Staal as a Vancouver Canuck - a natural center playing behind Crosby and Malkin in Pitts.

Crosby has one year left on his contract and Malkin has 2 more - don't see how they can re-sign all three.

Maybe they'd like Edler?

Then (to make Farhan happy) Schneider + Booth for Nash

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Kelser - Staal - Nash

[Jovocop]

The Canucks need to move Kesler back to the wing, get a center for him and whoever is on the other side.

I'd still love to see J. Staal as a Vancouver Canuck - a natural center playing behind Crosby and Malkin in Pitts.

Crosby has one year left on his contract and Malkin has 2 more - don't see how they can re-sign all three.

Maybe they'd like Edler?

Then (to make Farhan happy) Schneider + Booth for Nash

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Kelser - Staal - Nash

Can Staal and Nash both play defense?? The Canucks sorely lack legit #1 dman. By trading away the closest one, Edler *cough*, the Canucks will have a even bigger hole on the defense.

[vic]

The Canucks need to move Kesler back to the wing, get a center for him and whoever is on the other side.

I'd still love to see J. Staal as a Vancouver Canuck - a natural center playing behind Crosby and Malkin in Pitts.

Crosby has one year left on his contract and Malkin has 2 more - don't see how they can re-sign all three.

Maybe they'd like Edler?

Then (to make Farhan happy) Schneider + Booth for Nash

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Kelser - Staal - Nash

Can Staal and Nash both play defense?? The Canucks sorely lack legit #1 dman. By trading away the closest one, Edler *cough*, the Canucks will have a even bigger hole on the defense.

After this past year's first round exit, I'd be asking the same question about Edler.

There is nothing wrong with the Canuck's defence. Their #1 issue is scoring goals.

[wafflecombine]

I would argue that both are issues.

I greatly dislike the many brain-fart moments that our defense had this past season. As a group we are good but I still feel like we don't have a complete, reliable shutdown pairing.

On offense, yeah we need something to spark us and most likely the second line.

We will see what gets done in the offseason.

[Reefer2]

Just think we have 5 more months of this

It will be a long summer but I do hope the teams gets some players that go into the dirty areas.

[Jovocop]

The Canucks need to move Kesler back to the wing, get a center for him and whoever is on the other side.

I'd still love to see J. Staal as a Vancouver Canuck - a natural center playing behind Crosby and Malkin in Pitts.

Crosby has one year left on his contract and Malkin has 2 more - don't see how they can re-sign all three.

Maybe they'd like Edler?

Then (to make Farhan happy) Schneider + Booth for Nash

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Kelser - Staal - Nash

Can Staal and Nash both play defense?? The Canucks sorely lack legit #1 dman. By trading away the closest one, Edler *cough*, the Canucks will have a even bigger hole on the defense.

After this past year's first round exit, I'd be asking the same question about Edler.

There is nothing wrong with the Canuck's defence. Their #1 issue is scoring goals.

Scoring more goals would definitely help; however, the LA series was lost because Edler made one-two very costly mistakes every game. Hamhuis made one mistake that cost the team the series. If those mistakes weren't made, the team could manage to get through the first round with the amount of goals that they scored. Of course, if the Canucks can improve the offense without further sacrificing the defense, I would be very happy. I just wish that MG could address the defense.

[Strangelove]

Just spitballing here..

I can't help but wonder if Blue Jackets ownership are regretting inking James Wisniewski to such a big deal last year. They signed him (and went out and got Jeff Carter) in order to finally ice a more complete, competitive roster around Rick Nash and it has completely blown up on them. Carter wanted out, now Nash wants out and they've got another offensive defender in Jack Johnson - but they still owe Wisniewski twenty five million dollars over five years, and they are not likely to be needing to spend to the cap in that period while they go back to the drawing board after they deal their captain.

I wonder, if they were offered a switch for another defender earning less money on a shorter deal (who is still capable of playing relatively big minutes) would they pull the trigger and walk away happy?

Is James Wisniewski (a right-shooting, right side defenseman who is talented enough to produce some pretty good numbers and who it should be noted is an asshole) more likely to earn his $5.5m cap hit than Keith Ballard is to earn his $4.2m?

He's not exactly known for his reliable play in his own zone, but heck Ballard can't seem to get off the third pairing either..

Hmmmm.... "asshole" eh?

[Island Nucklehead]

Hamhuis needs to get back to being a stabilizer back there. To me, this was the most shocking thing about the first round. We have Edler, Bieksa and Ballard who all can carry the puck, but are prone to sometimes awful brain cramps. Tanev appears to have some chemistry with Ballard, and I think Ballard played a simple game and looked fine.

Salo is getting too old and slowing down considerably (not so much a knock on him, just a reality at his age). He simply cannot play the minutes required to "calm" the back end down. Nobody could cover some of the mistakes Edler made, but some of those mistakes certainly exposed Salo's lack of foot speed. He just couldn't cover ground. He's not a top-4, even strength guy any more imo.

Given all this, the Canucks would have to rely on the Bieksa/Hamhuis pairing to be their shut-down guys. Bieksa is never really a shut-down type, but him and Hamhuis played that role perfectly last playoffs. Bieksa could jump, make riskier plays (going for a hit/pinching) and Hamhuis would bail him out. This didn't happen enough this time around. Part of that is on Hamhuis, a lot on the forwards' lack of back pressure.

If the Canucks are going to go to a more "traditional" playoff team, they'll need less flash and dash on the back-end, and more guys that are more solid in their own zone. The Kings and Bruins have proved the Canucks "D" have trouble dealing with bigger forwards down low. Gillis has built a very mobile defence, but if (when) they get stuck in their own zone they're easily out-muscled.

You won't get as much offense from that "stabilizer" role. But if you brought in a guy like Zach Parise or Rick Nash up front, you'd expect your forwards to do more of the "traditional" lifting: scoring goals. IMO the biggest key will be getting Kesler and to a lesser degree Booth going. We could add Shea Weber to the back end, but if our second line isn't going we're screwed. Bring in a guy that can ignite the second line, and we won't miss 10-12 goals from the back end.

If I were to choose, I'd be dumping Ballard, and signing the "Barret Jackman" or "Bryan Allen" type. By removing Raymond, Ballard and Luongo MG has about $12M to play with. If Zach Parise will come here for $6.5M and your "Jackman/Allen" type for 4, you have a couple million left to find a third line C and a veteran backup for CS.


Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Parise-Kesler-Booth
Higgins-????-Hansen
Lapierre-Manny-Kassian

Bieksa-Hamhuis
Edler-"Jackman"
Tanev-Salo

CS
???

[donlever]

Island.

To your 12 million you can add Corys 1 million (rounded up) to make 13 million.

Then you can deduct whatever he is signed for from that total leaving you less than the 12 you speak of unfortunately.

Caps going up it can still work with a tweak here and there.

MG's job.