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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Farhan Lalji » Wed May 16, 2012 2:05 pm

donlever wrote:..do you have an app or does this shit come right out of your head?

:?


An app?

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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Farhan Lalji » Wed May 16, 2012 2:07 pm

I even made the disclaimer that I was just shooting the shit and pondering out loud as to whether the Ducks or Canucks would like the idea of swapping the twins for Getzlaf/Perry.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby donlever » Wed May 16, 2012 2:07 pm

Maybe you should hook up an app.

The Farhan Lalji NHL GM trader app.

$1.49.

U'd make billions.

(Notice I also got your two main handles in the title as well)
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby donlever » Wed May 16, 2012 2:08 pm

Farhan Lalji wrote:I even made the disclaimer that I was just shooting the shit and pondering out loud as to whether the Ducks or Canucks would like the idea of swapping the twins for Getzlaf/Perry.


Oh I never read the post.

I just saw a bunch of names and figured it was another one of those....

:P
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Farhan Lalji » Wed May 16, 2012 2:11 pm

donlever wrote:Maybe you should hook up an app.

The Farhan Lalji NHL GM trader app.

$1.49.

U'd make billions.

(Notice I also got your two main handles in the title as well)


Think Eklund and that Nick Kypreos already beat me to the punch there. :lol:

Although with a billion bucks, I wouldn't spend it on black male escorts like Kypreos but that's a different story for a different day.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Farhan Lalji » Wed May 16, 2012 2:14 pm

donlever wrote:
Farhan Lalji wrote:I even made the disclaimer that I was just shooting the shit and pondering out loud as to whether the Ducks or Canucks would like the idea of swapping the twins for Getzlaf/Perry.


Oh I never read the post.

I just saw a bunch of names and figured it was another one of those....

:P


haha, I don't blame ya. :P

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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Fred » Thu May 17, 2012 11:16 am

Would this guy fill a role ?

Jason Garrison tells Vancouver Radio Station that joining the Canucks would be "a thrill"

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White Rock native, BCHL veteran and pending unrestricted free agent defenseman Jason Garrison was interviewed on Vancouver's local news radio station "News 1130," today. According to the @News1130Sports Twitter account, he expressed a frank interest in joining the Canucks this offseason, if he can't close a deal with the Panthers. News 1130 hasn't uploaded a podcast of the interview yet, but I caught an audio snippet on live radio and I'll update this post when they do.


Garrison told News 1130 that he'll do everything he can to re-up in Florida, but that his agent and the Panthers haven't spoken of late and that joining the Canucks and playing for his hometown team would be a "thrill."


It's not particularly surprising that Florida hasn't been in close touch with Garrison's camp - they've already committed roughly 16 million dollars in cap-space to five defenseman (Campbell, Strachan, Weaver, Jovanovski and Gudbransson) and will still need to sign restricted free agents Dmitry Kulikov and Keaton Ellerby this summer. The team currently possesses rough 23 million dollars in cap-space, and in addition to Kulikov and Ellerby, will likely give Kris Versteeg a significant raise this summer as well. Just looking at their salary structure over at Capgeek, it's pretty clear that Dale Tallon will be hard-pressed to keep Garrison.


Jason Garrison is coming off of a career year in Miami this season and finished third among all NHL defenseman in goal scoring with 16 tallies (nine of which came on the power-play). He's also been a rock solid defensive defenseman for a few years now, so that offensive outburst couldn't have come at a better time for the 27 year old (he'll turn 28 in November). Garrison is now likely to receive at least a three million dollar raise on the 675k he brought home last season, and he could well get that raise from the Canucks.


Granted, his offensive explosion this past season was percentage driven (he went from shooting 4.5% in 2010-11 to shooting 9.5% in 2011-12), so it's unlikely to be sustained - but there are reasons to believe that he's not just this years version of Ville Leino.


In particular, Jason Garrison along with defensive partner and former Canuck Mike Weaver, were Pete DeBoer's "shut down pairing" for the Panthers in 2010-11, and generally speaking they were excellent. That season Garrison faced by far the highest quality of competition among all Panthers defenseman, started the second lowest proportion of shifts in the offensive zone, and still managed to keep his head above water.


This season, Garrison moved to the right side and was used in a more featured offensive role alongside Brian Campbell. Garrison continued to face top competition, however, he was deployed more often in the offensive zone than the defensive zone and he didn't just keep his head above water - he drove play. He also capitalized on Brian Campbell's sweet point-to-point feed and leaned heavily on his hard accurate slapper to score 16 goals (most of them off of one-timers from the point).


Garrison's gaudy goal totals this past season are something of a mirage and this is not a guy who is going to quarterback an effective NHL power-play, or contribute forty points every season. What he can do, however, is play difficult top-four minutes on either a featured offensive pairing or an efficient shutdown pairing. He can be a fixture on both special teams units, he's got an absolute bomb and he's got above average mobility for a defenseman his size. Garrison can also, and this is not a negligible factor, play the point on either the left or the right side successfully.


Whatever team ultimately signs Jason Garrison this offseason will pay a premium because of his offensive success this past season. However, where he'd provide real value to the Canucks (or another team in need of a tough minutes defenseman) is in his two-way play, and his versatility.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Tciso » Thu May 17, 2012 5:18 pm

Knucklehead wrote:
wafflecombine wrote: The big one is Lou. I don't know how we move him without taking a crap contract in return and despite the pissing and moaning we hear about how bad Lou's contract is... there are WAY worse ones out there that we could get stuck with.


If we need to take a crap contract back to trade Lou we keep him and trade Schneider in my opinion.

Although I personaly think we can get a good return for Lou.


I can see us taking back a "crap contract", but if the player fills a hole, I don't mind picking up a $2.5mil player for $4mil. As long as we are not taking back $4mil for a guy who has no role on the team. Ballard already fills that slot.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Tciso » Fri May 18, 2012 6:44 pm

Farhan Lalji wrote:Not a serious suggestion, but do you think a

To Anaheim: Henrik, Daniel
To Vancouver: Getzlaf, Perry

Would be a good deal? (let's forget about whether it would actually happen or not.........obviously, it won't).

Canucks get younger, bigger, and stronger, while the Ducks get two recent Art Ross trophy winners, and two guys that might be able to maximize Teemu Selanne if he stays on for one more year.

Think both Anaheim and Vancouver would be interested in a deal like this?


Nope. Canucks would be daft to do that trade, and Anaheim is trading away younger, quality guys for possible one good season from Teemu?? Both teams, imo, would be trading away parts, just to shake things up. The Canucks are not in shake-up mode in the top line.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby RoyalDude » Sat May 19, 2012 7:56 am

If we could somehow, get rid of Ballard's contract, I'd love to sign the two BC kids Garrisson and Schultz. Saying bye to Salo and Rome. Love Sami, but he is getting long in the tooth. I know Garrison is a possible dangerous overpay, in which he will get, last season could have been a one-off but he's a big kid with a big shot, young and local that I am willing to take a chance on.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Lancer » Sat May 19, 2012 5:28 pm

RoyalDude wrote:If we could somehow, get rid of Ballard's contract, I'd love to sign the two BC kids Garrisson and Schultz. Saying bye to Salo and Rome. Love Sami, but he is getting long in the tooth. I know Garrison is a possible dangerous overpay, in which he will get, last season could have been a one-off but he's a big kid with a big shot, young and local that I am willing to take a chance on.


I think I'd take a pass on Garrison. Last season for him was an aberration IMHO. Even he admits he was the recipient of some great feeds from Campbell. Can he get the same success with whatever the blueline looks like? Not so sure. You're right, we'd likely overpay and I think it's getting tiresome this whole take-whatever-Florida-doesn't-want show.

Schultz, on the other hand, should be pursued if Anaheim doesn't sign him. Wouldn't be surprised if the topic of working youngsters into the lineup more and better wasn't discussed between AV and MG these days. If Gillis manages to sign Schultz, then he has more assets come trading time - people like Connaughton and Sauve come to mind. Don't get me wrong. I like the potential Connaughton presents, but given a choice between Schultz and Connaughton, I would take Schultz 8 times out of ten. Gillis just has to convince Schultz that he will get more of a chance on a successful team than the other 20 some-odd teams who would tender him an offer.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Strangelove » Sat May 19, 2012 9:08 pm

Lancer wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:If we could somehow, get rid of Ballard's contract, I'd love to sign the two BC kids Garrisson and Schultz. Saying bye to Salo and Rome. Love Sami, but he is getting long in the tooth. I know Garrison is a possible dangerous overpay, in which he will get, last season could have been a one-off but he's a big kid with a big shot, young and local that I am willing to take a chance on.


I think I'd take a pass on Garrison. Last season for him was an aberration IMHO. Even he admits he was the recipient of some great feeds from Campbell. Can he get the same success with whatever the blueline looks like? Not so sure. You're right, we'd likely overpay and I think it's getting tiresome this whole take-whatever-Florida-doesn't-want show.

Schultz, on the other hand, should be pursued if Anaheim doesn't sign him. Wouldn't be surprised if the topic of working youngsters into the lineup more and better wasn't discussed between AV and MG these days. If Gillis manages to sign Schultz, then he has more assets come trading time - people like Connaughton and Sauve come to mind. Don't get me wrong. I like the potential Connaughton presents, but given a choice between Schultz and Connaughton, I would take Schultz 8 times out of ten. Gillis just has to convince Schultz that he will get more of a chance on a successful team than the other 20 some-odd teams who would tender him an offer.


I couldn't agree more with that entire post.

I'll add that I have a hunch BC boy Schultzie choo-choo-chooses your Vancouver Canucks. :thumbs:
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby FAN » Sun May 20, 2012 2:20 am

Garrison would be an interesting signing. Do you slot him in beside Edler and have him play a top 4 role? If so, then I can't imagine Garrison being too overpaid for his role ($3M-3.5M would be ideal and $4M wouldn't be unreasonable). If Garrison is seen as a bottom pairing guy then the chances are there will be a massive overpayment.

Truth is Garrison has been playing a top 4 role in each of his past two seasons, albeit for the Panthers (we know how that can go). He entered the league as a puckmoving Dman who had a big shot but surprised with his steady defensive work. His goal totals might very well be an aberration but on this team, I think 6-8 goals would be reasonable and adding another big shot to the PP (badly needed if Salo doesn't return) is something the team can use. If the price is right, I think Garrison can turn out to be a very good signing but Gillis & co. better get the right scouting report and projection for this guy.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby Ched Brosky » Sun May 20, 2012 2:42 am

To Calgary:
RW Brett Connolly

To Tampa Bay:
G Roberto Luongo
Calgary 2nd round pick (44th OVR)

To Vancouver:
LW Alex Tanguay
Detroit 1st round pick (19th OVR)

Calgary goes into rebuild mode trading their aged core for solid young roster players.
Tama Bay gets their elite goalie and yet another 2nd round pick
Canucks get their playmaking winger for Kesler. Also has some size on him.

To Philadelphia:
RW Kellan Tochkin
RW Dale Weise

To Vancouver:
RW Tom Sestito

Philadelphia gets a project and a late pick for a guy who has been a call up in his stay there, showed promise in Columbus.
Vancouver gets their Dwight King or Shawn Thornton. Better numbers than King in the AHL, only 2 years older, showed signs of a good board game in the offensive zone in Columbus. Also plays on the edge and is huge.

To Anaheim:
LW/RW Mason Raymond

To Vancouver:
Anaheim 2nd round pick (34th OVR)

Anaheim lacks winger depth, and get a 2nd/3rd line tweener with a good 2 way game and speed to burn
Vancouver gets a very early 2nd round pick. I say 34th OVR because I can't see NJD not forfeiting their pick this year.

To New York Islanders:
D Andrew Alberts

To Vancouver:
New York Islanders 4th round pick (94 OVR)

New York is low on defenders and a 4th for a #6/7 guy is not too much for them to spend
Canucks dump a contract with a high cap hit for his position on the team

Convince Manny Malhotra to retire and take up a job in management/coaching
Re-sign Cory Schneider 5 years 16M
Re-sign C/RW Byron Bitz 1 year 0.525M
Re-sign D Sami Salo 1 year 1.5M
Re-sign C/RW Steve Pinizzato 1 year 0.525M
Re-sign GEddie Lack to QO 0.660M
Re-sign D Marc-Andre Gragnani to QO 0.605M
Sign LW Tomas Holmstrom 1 year 1.5M
Sign D Justin Schultz 3 year 0.925M
Sign D Jason Garrison 4 years 16M

D.Sedin H.Sedin Burrows
Tanguay Kesler Booth
Higgins Lapierre Hansen
Sestito Schroeder Holmstrom
Bitz/Pinizzato

Edler Garrison
Hamhuis Bieksa
Ballard Schultz
Gragnani/Salo

Schneider
Lack

Salary Cap Payroll 62.545M
Leaves 1.755M in cap space if cap stays the same

Holmstrom plays 1st unit RW PP moving Kesler down to the 2nd unit which spreads our PP scoring.
Chris Tanev and Zack Kassian spend a year in the minors progressing.
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Re: Off-Season Trade Thread - Needs/Wants

Postby the Dogsalmon » Sun May 20, 2012 9:23 am

Ched Brosky wrote:To Calgary:
RW Brett Connolly

To Tampa Bay:
G Roberto Luongo
Calgary 2nd round pick (44th OVR)

To Vancouver:
LW Alex Tanguay
Detroit 1st round pick (19th OVR)

Calgary goes into rebuild mode trading their aged core for solid young roster players.
Tama Bay gets their elite goalie and yet another 2nd round pick
Canucks get their playmaking winger for Kesler. Also has some size on him.

To Philadelphia:
RW Kellan Tochkin
RW Dale Weise

To Vancouver:
RW Tom Sestito

Philadelphia gets a project and a late pick for a guy who has been a call up in his stay there, showed promise in Columbus.
Vancouver gets their Dwight King or Shawn Thornton. Better numbers than King in the AHL, only 2 years older, showed signs of a good board game in the offensive zone in Columbus. Also plays on the edge and is huge.

To Anaheim:
LW/RW Mason Raymond

To Vancouver:
Anaheim 2nd round pick (34th OVR)

Anaheim lacks winger depth, and get a 2nd/3rd line tweener with a good 2 way game and speed to burn
Vancouver gets a very early 2nd round pick. I say 34th OVR because I can't see NJD not forfeiting their pick this year.

To New York Islanders:
D Andrew Alberts

To Vancouver:
New York Islanders 4th round pick (94 OVR)

New York is low on defenders and a 4th for a #6/7 guy is not too much for them to spend
Canucks dump a contract with a high cap hit for his position on the team

Convince Manny Malhotra to retire and take up a job in management/coaching
Re-sign Cory Schneider 5 years 16M
Re-sign C/RW Byron Bitz 1 year 0.525M
Re-sign D Sami Salo 1 year 1.5M
Re-sign C/RW Steve Pinizzato 1 year 0.525M
Re-sign GEddie Lack to QO 0.660M
Re-sign D Marc-Andre Gragnani to QO 0.605M
Sign LW Tomas Holmstrom 1 year 1.5M
Sign D Justin Schultz 3 year 0.925M
Sign D Jason Garrison 4 years 16M

D.Sedin H.Sedin Burrows
Tanguay Kesler Booth
Higgins Lapierre Hansen
Sestito Schroeder Holmstrom
Bitz/Pinizzato

Edler Garrison
Hamhuis Bieksa
Ballard Schultz
Gragnani/Salo

Schneider
Lack

Salary Cap Payroll 62.545M
Leaves 1.755M in cap space if cap stays the same

Holmstrom plays 1st unit RW PP moving Kesler down to the 2nd unit which spreads our PP scoring.
Chris Tanev and Zack Kassian spend a year in the minors progressing.




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