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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby Arachnid » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:40 am

dbr wrote:
Arachnid wrote:And what of Daniels transgression? If Keith was concussed on that play and make no mistake, he could have been, then there would have been a big outcry from the CHicago contingent but because the officials blew it Duncan put it on himself for justice. It is exactly the same argument for Moore/Naslund/Bertuzzi only we are the team wearing the rose colour glasses now...

Suspend Daniel Sedin until the playoffs! I want justice!!!


Daniel's hit was a grey area type of play in this league, it happens a few times a week and injuries (and penalties - let alone suspensions) are rare. If Daniel had been penalized for that hit - a less egregious foul than the one that Getlaf laid on Hamhuis last with no penalty, and did concuss him - I would've thought it was pretty much acceptable.

That being said the zebras missed it and Keith responded by doing something ten times worse.

Anyway if you want to buy the revenge angle that's fine, does that mean you would've been okay with another clock malfunction at the Staples center to nullify a Sharks chance?

Elite athletes are role models for our youth, they are (over)paid to be the best at what they do.


So whose a better role model today, Ryan Clowe or Duncan Keith?

Too many men on the ice is usually a mistake and not on purpose.'Usually'.
Leaving the bench to protect outnumbered or outsized teammates is even understandable but the blatant cheating of a player to change the dynamics of a game with a playoff seed on the line is sending what message?...if the NHL doesn't send the right message here it is saying a lot...those of us that think this is the right values to show our hockey loving children probably cheat on their wives/girlfriends/boyfriends and/or taxes....but then again, it's corporate hockey...not exactly the grounds for righteousness...


No, it's not. And word is there will be no supplemental discipline.

It looks terrible on the league and like I said elsewhere it shows they need to either give the zebras the ability to go back and watch video of a play like that (or have a coaches challenge or whatever), or the league needs to give themselves power to use supplemental discipline in previously unforeseen scenarios like this one. At least, if they want to wield a big stick the next time someone finds a new way to cheat.


I supported what Bert did because the league failed to protect star player and leading points man Markus, Todd repeatedly told Moore to turn around and fight like a man by tugging on his jersey and he turtled and skated away.

Someone on the Canucks should have answered the bell to Keith before he took matters into his own hands...he warned everyone that he would get Daniel back...the refs didn't do anything, his teammates did nothing, in the old days a goon would have fought the surrogate fight and thats that...

Daniel has no history of cheap concussion shots put he is still responsible for his hit...

I am the best role model for not being a sheep and not putting up with blatant cheating...you all can turn the other cheek but things like this are bullshit and have no place. If we condone it then we are no better...look at Marchand on Danny last year, punching in the face...unfucking real...that's allowed is it? Well that's why MG went out and got goons...an eye for an eye...

It's embarrassing for this league, this happens in the NFL, MLB, NBA or the Premiere League there will be a major uproar and suspensions...after a player has left the playing area you keep out...if it's by accident then cool, if it is that clear it is a cheat then...show the kids the right thing to do...bea maaaaaaann...

Funny exerts from the G & M comments...

I would make sure he is handed the most severe of penalties. Make him watch the Leafs Habs game tonight.
..hey, he just played more defense that the leafs did all year with that play..lol
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby Arachnid » Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:41 am

Potatoe1 wrote:
Arachnid wrote: :look: Ummmm...Aren't all of them trying to win a hockey game? Only they are following the rules on the ice and not cheating after they left the play....


Is it not cheating to dive and or embellish in order to get a penalty called against the other team?

Half our team does that sort of thing from time to time.

Was Ryan Kesler doing the "chicken wing" to Shea Weber in the playoffs last year not "cheating (or at best terrible sportsmanship)

Dumb play by Clowe, but you are way over reacting.


:evil: I am NOT overreacting...I am bug'n for the post-season.... 8-)
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby dbr » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:01 pm

Arachnid wrote:I supported what Bert did because the league failed to protect star player and leading points man Markus, Todd repeatedly told Moore to turn around and fight like a man by tugging on his jersey and he turtled and skated away.


Okay well, I'm not going to wade into that mess.

Someone on the Canucks should have answered the bell to Keith before he took matters into his own hands...he warned everyone that he would get Daniel back...the refs didn't do anything, his teammates did nothing, in the old days a goon would have fought the surrogate fight and thats that...

Daniel has no history of cheap concussion shots put he is still responsible for his hit...


Answered the bell to Keith?! Was he skating around challenging Canucks before he decided he'd rather settle things with his elbow?

The only way for someone to prevent the elbow on Sedin would've been to knock Duncan Keith out of the game. Anyway none of what transpired that night justified Keith's (mis)conduct, one way or the other.

I am the best role model for not being a sheep and not putting up with blatant cheating...you all can turn the other cheek but things like this are bullshit and have no place. If we condone it then we are no better...look at Marchand on Danny last year, punching in the face...unfucking real...that's allowed is it? Well that's why MG went out and got goons...an eye for an eye...


How is anyone condoning Clowe's cheating? It's a fact that there is no leeway in the rules for the league to punish him, so they are stuck.. and I am pretty sure nobody here is saying it's okay. Are you going to fly out to San Jose and end Clowe's season yourself? :P

It's embarrassing for this league, this happens in the NFL, MLB, NBA or the Premiere League there will be a major uproar and suspensions...after a player has left the playing area you keep out...if it's by accident then cool, if it is that clear it is a cheat then...show the kids the right thing to do...bea maaaaaaann...


I totally agree, and it's unfortunate that the league set themselves up to be completely helpless in this situation.
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby Potatoe1 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:16 pm

Arachnid wrote:
I am bug'n for the post-season.... 8-)


Yup,

I can barely even watch the most recent games let alone discuss them on a godam hockey talk message board.....
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby old calamari » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:31 pm

Hard to beleive that 4 officials on the ice never saw that. I wonder if they were the same crew that was in LA for the time clock debaucle.
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby the Dogsalmon » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:52 pm

2 minutes...either too many men or a bench minor...better yet make it a double minor...or the yet to be invented triple minor...i have smoked too much dope today already...
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby Meds » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:58 pm

I'll tell you what Clowe's "supplemental discipline" should be, and I'll tell you what it will be.

Clowe just pulled some shit that was caught on tape. The fact that it went uncalled and that he denied it after the fact embarrasses both the league and the officials on national television. Clowe just painted a big target on his back and put the Sharks under a magnifying glass going into the playoffs. It's a pretty sure bet that officials are going to be tougher on the Sharks (and Clowe in particular) than they would otherwise have been. I'm OK with that. I like that San Jose (a potential 1st round opponent) is going to have to walk the straight and narrow more cautiously than before.

So Clowe's supplemental discipline? San Jose out in the first round. Nice work Clowe.
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby ESQ » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:29 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:I love that he did it and got away with it. Sort of reminds me of a fan throwing a sweater on the ice just as a Flame was about to score into an empty Canuck net causing said Flame to miss the net and then we score on the follow up play to tie the game and send it to OT.

Love plays like that.

We could have used someone coming off our bench last night.

Does anybody remember a play a couple years ago, maybe in the Dallas series, where there a clean breakaway in OT and Sami just jumped off the bench? He decided he'd eat the too many men penalty instead of a scoring chance like that, and AV backed him. I think they scored on the ensuing powerplay to end the game in OT or something like that.
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:24 pm

the Dogsalmon wrote:i have smoked too much dope today already...


Is it any good ?

I have been on the purple cush lately myself . Pretty good from my guy but I know there is better shit out there.
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Re: Ryan Clowe's Caught Cheating and Not By His Wife...

Postby the Dogsalmon » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:25 am

i have recently dropped my drug use down to "recreational" status as opposed to full time use...personally,i like the variety pack supplied by my local dealer...it is 4 different strains(blueberry,white rhino and 2 different types of kush) each bag is a 1/4 ounce and its like having a box of "pot of gold" chocolates...perhaps i should call it "pot of pot"...
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