The Sedin & Keith Affair

[Nuckertuzzi]

Moore was and never was going to be a star...in that case, insurance, compensate him whatever

I'm all for protecting stars but a dangerous cheapshot is a dangerous cheapshot no matter who the recipient is. So what if Moore was a scrub..all that matters is he was assaulted on the ice and it resulted in a career ending injury.

Not in the frame of Bertuzzi huh?

Very different instances imo. Keith's hit was a reactionary thing, a momentary lapse in judgement that happens. Anyone who's played the game have all been put in situations where they felt the need to retaliate. I've been cheapshotted myself a few times..when it happens you lose your head momentarily and do things you normally wouldn't do. One time it happened all I thought about the rest of the game was to get one shot at the guy..I got it, it felt good but after the game I wished I let my cooler head prevail. This is where Bertuzzi's incident differs..it had a long time, weeks to simmer down and didn't..the entire team plotted revenge and Bertuzzi stalked and assaulted the guy who had his back turned and skating away from the threat. The other thing is he didn't stop after the initial right hook to the back of the head, he piled on him and drove his head to the ice...it was as close to a criminal act as you can get in a sport. Keith took his shot and probably knew and regretted instantly that his elbow crossed the line, otherwise if he was seriously intent on injuring Danny (he wanted to hurt him, not injure..there's a difference) he would've piled on him and gave him a few more shots when he was hunched over..the way Bert did on Moore. No doubt about it, Keith's cheapshot was dirty, as dirty as it gets and he will get punished for it...but there's a fine line between dirty and borderline criminal. I don't think he crossed it, Bertuzzi did.

[dhabums]

Calpuck's always entertaining and wise take.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=115977

My current fave:

The fact that Canuck fans think one hit is worse than another just goes to show they need to take off their homer glasses. Both hits were horrible hits and both hits should be suspendable.

[dhabums]

Keith took his shot and probably knew and regretted instantly that his elbow crossed the line, otherwise if he was seriously intent on injuring Danny (he wanted to hurt him, not injure..there's a difference) he would've piled on him and gave him a few more shots when he was hunched over..the way Bert did on Moore. No doubt about it, Keith's cheapshot was dirty, as dirty as it gets and he will get punished for it...but there's a fine line between dirty and borderline criminal. I don't think he crossed it, Bertuzzi did.

You don't seriously believe all of this do you?

[Nuckertuzzi]

You don't seriously believe all of this do you?

Absolutely.

[Knucklehead]

The more I think about it the more I come to believe this was in ways similar to Burt's assault on Moore.

Premeditated assault with possible carreer ending implications. (God I hope not!)

If an assault like this happened outside of the NHL charges would probably be laid.

[Hockey Widow]

No amount of suspension will satisfy me if Dank cannot play until next season.

[donlever]

No amount of suspension will satisfy me if Dank cannot play until next season.

Ok.

What if we set Duncan up with angry, blustering, menopausal housewife for a period of time?

[tantalum]

It's not like the Sedin hit on Keith happened the same shift. It happened several shifts earlier. Keith had time to settle down and collect his thoughts and DECIDE he was going to do something that would hurt the guy who hit him. No it's not quite the same as thinking about it and deciding to hurt a guy when given a chance a couple of weeks down the road like Bertuzzi but no one is really asking for an indefinite suspension like BErtuzzi got either. At the same time it is also in a whole other ballpark compared to what Marchand did on Salo (or the Doan elbow or even the Bourque elbow which were spur of the moment type of things). Marchand was pissed from something that happened on that shift and did something dirty and stupid and paid for it. THis is far far far far far more heinous than the Rome hit on Horton.

This was a deliberate, cold and calculating attempt to injure. I have a hard time believing it was anything but this.

[Hockey Widow]

No amount of suspension will satisfy me if Dank cannot play until next season.

Ok.

What if we set Duncan up with angry, blustering, menopausal housewife for a period of time?

The farts alone would have him crying for mercy within a week.

[dhabums]

5 games , wow.

[Uncle dans leg]

5 games , wow.

Shanny u pussy

[tantalum]

NHL once again proves that they are just paying lip service to getting dirty play out of the game.

[Zedlee]

5 games just reported on 1040.

Not nearly enough. Amounts to a nice vacation for Keith and he'll be all rested up for the playoffs. Fuck you NHL.

[Hockey Widow]

It's not like the Sedin hit on Keith happened the same shift. It happened several shifts earlier. Keith had time to settle down and collect his thoughts and DECIDE he was going to do something that would hurt the guy who hit him. No it's not quite the same as thinking about it and deciding to hurt a guy when given a chance a couple of weeks down the road like Bertuzzi but no one is really asking for an indefinite suspension like BErtuzzi got either. At the same time it is also in a whole other ballpark compared to what Marchand did on Salo (or the Doan elbow or even the Bourque elbow which were spur of the moment type of things). Marchand was pissed from something that happened on that shift and did something dirty and stupid and paid for it. THis is far far far far far more heinous than the Rome hit on Horton.

This was a deliberate, cold and calculating attempt to injure. I have a hard time believing it was anything but this.

Exactly Tant. This was no heat of the moment or heat of the battle hit. He also made threats to Dank as he sat on the bench. Most times we call this trash talk but when the player does exactly what he said he would do, feed him his elbow, you know it was premeditated and intended to cause injury. Now the perfect moment may never have come for Keith to exact his revenge and it would be done with but that play presented the perfect moment and Keith took advantage of it.

One of the keys will be if any on ice official heard the threats. And if they did the next question becomes why Keith only got a 2 minute penalty. So maybe the answer in the future is if any play is overheard by any on ice official threatening to injury another player he is automatically given a game misconduct and removed from the game. It is policing trash talk I know but just saying....Racial slurs draw misconducts why not threats to retaliate or injure?

[donlever]

...and the NHL continues to lead an existence of farcical proportions.

Yawn.

Next....


(...oh btw, seasons open on stars right now, wanna knock someone out of the playoffs, cost ya 5 regular season non-factor games, ready set go....)