mathonwy wrote:You still haven't shown me why Brian Burke is a sham.
REALLY? DOESN'T HIS RECORD AFTER NEARLY FOUR YEARS IN TORONTO WITH NO PLAYOFF ACTIVITY IN SIGHT SAY SOMETHING?
He's an attention whore, he's an ego maniac and he's offends the shit out of the media but these things don't make him a sham.
YES HE IS
Your post just seems like the continuation of a hate crusade you got for Burke instead of an objective analysis.
I DON'T REALLY LIKE HIM, BUT FACTS ARE FACTS
Anaheim - You're discrediting Burke for winning the Stanley Cup because he inherited a good team and you imply that anyone could have won it with Anaheim's roster at that point of time but Burke was in the right place right time and "lucked" into some good trades. Come on man. If it was that easy, everyone would be winning a SC.
I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT BURKE ADDED THE FINAL PIECES. WITHOUT PRONGER AND NIEDERMAYER, THAT CUP TEAM IN 2007 MAY NOT HAVE WON IT ALL. THEN AGAIN, WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SAY IS BURKE IS FINE WITH THE 'FINISHING TOUCHES' BUT THE REAL BRAINPOWER OF BUILDING A TEAM WITH A REAL PLAN AND STRATEGY THAT IS CONSISTENTLY COMPETITIVE (THINK DETROIT) FUELED WITHOUT EGO BUT WITH CAREFUL PLANNING, PATIENCE AND A FOCUS ON SYSTEMS AND DRAFTING IS NOT HIS FORTE. SO, HAVING SAID THAT, RE-BUILDING THE LEAFS WITH BRIAN BURKE AT THE HELM IS A PATH TO DISASTER. AFTER NEARLY FOUR SEASONS....I REST MY CASE.
Vancouver - You're discrediting Burke for not going out and getting a goaltender. I can't really comment on this one as I can't remember what options were available to us at that point of time. Cloutier was bad in the playoffs but he did win 30+ games for us in three consecutive season. Do we blame "we choked" on Brian Burke as well?
HE DIDN'T REALLY GET ANOTHER TOP-FLIGHT GOALTENDER. YEAR AFTER YEAR, CLOUTIER WOULD LET IN BAD GOALS AND FALL APART. THAT'S OK IF YOU'RE LUCKY TO BE IN THE PLAYOFFS. NOT GOOD IF YOU HAVE JOVO, BERTUZZI, NASLUND, MORRISON, ETC. AT YOUR DISPOSAL WITH BAD GOALTENDING. LOOK AT MIKE GILLIS. WHY HASN'T HE TRADED CORY SCHNEIDER? IF LUONGO CHOKES, MIKE GILLIS AND ALAIN VIGNEAULT WILL PUT SCHNEIDER IN. THEY'VE LEARNED THEIR LESSON. WHO ELSE DID BURKE BRING IN TO CHALLENGE CLOUTIER? ALEX AULD? JOHAN HEDBERG? NEITHER ONE OF THOSE GUYS WAS A STANLEY CUP GOALIE.
Toronto - You're discrediting Burke for not being in touch with how the modern player should be coached. Up until 7 or 8 games ago, Toronto was in a playoff position and had been in there for the majority of the season. Then the goaltenders forgot how to goaltend and it was a downward spiral after that.
GUSTAVSSON HAS BEEN INCONSISTENT FOR THE PAST THREE SEASONS. JAMES REIMER WAS PLAYING IN THE ECHL 2 SEASONS AGO. DO YOU THINK BRIAN WOULD HAVE HAD THE FORSIGHT TO DO SOMETHING IN THE OFF SEASON LAST YEAR? HELL, IF I WAS HIM, I WOULD HAVE PICKED UP BEN BISHOP FROM ST.LOUIS INSTEAD OF OTTAWA. WHAT ABOUT JOSH HARDING FROM MINNESOTA? WITH GUSTAVSSON AND REIMER IN GOAL, UNLESS BURKE CALLS UP A GOALIE FROM THE MARLIES, THE LEAFS ARE DOOMED.
You're quoting Kevin Lowe to support your argument because we all know Lowe is the most objective and unbiased fan of Burke... Are you going to quote Don Cherry next time?
KEVIN LOWE WAS RESPONDING TO BURKE'S ATTACKS ON HIM 4 YEARS AGO AFTER BURKE WAS CRITICAL OF SOME OF LOWE'S FREE-AGENT SIGNINGS. KEVIN LOWE IS NOT A MANAGERIAL GENIUS EITHER, BUT A LOT OF WHAT HE SAYS HAS SOME TRUTH TO IT. BURKE DID BUILD UP A BAD CANUCKS TEAM BUT HAD SOME ASSETS IN BERTUZZI AND NASLUND ALREADY IN PLACE. HE DRAFTED POORLY, DIDN'T DEVELOP SOME OF THE PLAYERS THEY DRAFTED AND IT SHOWED. BURKE GOT LUCKY IN ANAHEIM BUT DID ADD SOME OF THE MISSING PIECES. GOOD ON HIM FOR DOING THAT. HE DID WIN A CUP.
THE TRUTH IS - WHEN HE HAS HAD TO DO IT ALL ON HIS OWN, NO INHERITING COREY PERRY OR RYAN GETZLAF, NO INHERITING TODD BERTUZZI OR MARKUS NASLUND, JUST THE 'SAVIOUR' OF THE LEAFS....AFTER NEARLY FOURS SEASONS...TO QUOTE A LITTLE OLD LADY SPEAKING DURING AN OLD WENDY'S HAMBUGER COMMERCIAL....'WHERE'S THE BEEF?'
Coaching philosophy.. Yes. Bylsma is part of the new generation of coaches that seems to be enjoying quite a lot of success. There's Bylsma and there's Arniel and Payne. Arniel and Payne are both part of the younger generation of coaches that couldn't get it done and were subsequently fired and replaced with arguably older generation guys. Hitch is old school and Richards is just a temp.
PLAYERS HAVE CHANGED. KEN HITCHCOCK HAS ACKNOWLEDGED HE HAS HAD TO CHANGE HIS STYLE OF COACHING IN ST.LOUIS. MARC CRAWFORD ACKNOWLEDGED THAT IN DALLAS. READING BURKE'S COMMENTS TELLS ME HE IS OUT OF TOUCH.
Re: Firing Mike Babcock. This isn't the first time you've said this.
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 34,1125831
There's quite a big difference between firing and not extending. Geezes man.
Sooooo.... Brian Burke is a sham. Blah blah blah. You're like the Wizard of Oz. One pulls away the curtains and there's not much substance.
NOPE. JUST HAVE A LOT OF FACTS TO BACK UP WHAT I SAY. AND FINALLY....IF BURKE IS SO GREAT...
HOW MANY PLAYOFF GAMES HAVE THE LEAFS PLAYED SINCE HE TOOK OVER NEARLY FOUR SEASONS AGO?
THAT'S RIGHT. I REST MY CASE BUB.