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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:53 pm

tantalum wrote: I have a feeling you'll have to ask Cody what the rush was.....


To you last post. Yes Kassian was acquired in the Hodgson trade, however, he is not the one replacing Hodgson in the lineup. But of course you knew that.
So you are one of the ones buying into the unsubstantiated rumor that CoHo wanted out of Vancouver, simply going by Rich Winters Tweets?

Who the fuck cares about Old Man Pahlsson, we traded CoHo for Kassian. This isn't about Pahlsson, Sulzer, Gragnani whatever. The heart of the deal was Kassian for CoHo. So, no matter how you try to lawyer it it, it is always going to be Kassian vs CoHo forever in Canuck history.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by tantalum » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:07 pm

RoyalDude wrote: So you are one of the ones buying into the unsubstantiated rumor that CoHo wanted out of Vancouver, simply going by Rich Winters Tweets?
Nope not simply going by the tweets which are plain as day. Going by every other pundit that have now talked to numerous sources and there really is no question he was not happy with the icetime. Not saying he asked for a trade.
Who the fuck cares about Old Man Pahlsson, we traded CoHo for Kassian. This isn't about Pahlsson, Sulzer, Gragnani whatever. The heart of the deal was Kassian for CoHo. So, no matter how you try to lawyer it it, it is always going to be Kassian vs CoHo forever in Canuck history.
WHen you evaluate the deal in a number of years when all is said and done absolutely. But that isn't how you evaluate the deal right now for the current team.

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by Strangelove » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:10 pm

RoyalDude wrote: Who the fuck cares about Old Man Pahlsson, we traded CoHo for Kassian. This isn't about Pahlsson, Sulzer, Gragnani whatever. The heart of the deal was Kassian for CoHo. So, no matter how you try to lawyer it it, it is always going to be Kassian vs CoHo forever in Canuck history.
That's where your wrong Dude.

Gragnani will be the biggest star of the lot.

Hey, the kid has 22 points in 70 NHL games!

Compare that to Coho's 36 points in 89 games, keeping in mind Grags is a defenseman!

(also note Grags put up WAY more PPG in the AHL than Coho).

HOPEfully he continues his upward trend, increasing his value so that GMMG can trade him for a shutdown dee....
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:29 pm

RoyalDude wrote: We traded a guaranteed offensive producer for Hope.
Guaranteed to score 3 points in 19 games. What's that a 13 point pace for the year ? :lol:

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by dhabums » Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:40 pm

RoyalDude wrote: I thought we traded Hodgson for Kassian? Not the 34 year old shut down specialist Pahlsson with limited offensive skill.
Redefining obtuse every single day.

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:23 pm

dhabums wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: I thought we traded Hodgson for Kassian? Not the 34 year old shut down specialist Pahlsson with limited offensive skill.
Redefining obtuse every single day.
Shutup dhabums
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by Strangelove » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:29 pm

^^^^ Dude trying to SHUT DOWN Dhabums. :D

errr... shutup is pretty much the same as shutdown right?
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by dhabums » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:30 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
dhabums wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: I thought we traded Hodgson for Kassian? Not the 34 year old shut down specialist Pahlsson with limited offensive skill.
Redefining obtuse every single day.
Shutup dhabums
I liked the colourful names better. It's too bad Cornuck shut you down on those.

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:37 pm

dhabums wrote:
I liked the colourful names better. It's too bad Cornuck shut you down on those.
Cornuck wasn't all too hip to my adding a little color to your handle. I thought it was pretty harmless stuff.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by Per » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:41 am

RoyalDude wrote: Who the fuck cares about Old Man Pahlsson, we traded CoHo for Kassian. This isn't about Pahlsson, Sulzer, Gragnani whatever. The heart of the deal was Kassian for CoHo. So, no matter how you try to lawyer it it, it is always going to be Kassian vs CoHo forever in Canuck history.
If we do not acquire Påhlsson, there is no CoHo for Kassian deal. The GM looks at the whole picture. With Påhlsson available, CoHo became expendable and Kassian fills a more pressing need.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by RoyalDude » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:08 am

Per wrote:
If we do not acquire Påhlsson, there is no CoHo for Kassian deal. The GM looks at the whole picture. With Påhlsson available, CoHo became expendable and Kassian fills a more pressing need.
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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by coco_canuck » Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:29 am

RoyalDude wrote: :bang:
Keep at it, maybe you'll shutdown.

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by Madcombinepilot » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:22 pm

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by Island Nucklehead » Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:55 pm

RoyalDude wrote: I just don't buy the logic that we had to much skill at centre. Pat Lafontaine played like 3 or 4 years at 3rd line centre with the Islanders behind Trottier, Goring and Brent Sutter. What was the rush with Cody, this was his rookie year wasn't it? Joe Sakic played a couple years behind Peter Stastny and Dale Hunter. The Centre position, outside of goaltending is the most important position in hockey and we squandered it for a 4th line winger, no offense to Kassian, I like him, but seriously, skilled young centreman are hard to get.
And I think this is the worry most Canucks fans have, Dude. Nobody is deluding themselves, this could come back and hurt the Canucks BIG TIME. It also has the potential to give the Canucks something they sorely lack, and when taken alongside the Pahlsson deal, makes us better immediately in more than one area of the ice.

We've known for a long time (well most of us) that we had a special player in Hodgson. Kassian is a different beast entirely, but is one the Canucks haven't had since Todd went berserk. He's the kind of player that can score a goal, fight your tougher players and then knock someone out with a vicious check. He's a mean mo-fo that can play minutes. These guys don't grow on trees, either. Nobody is claiming he's the next Lucic, but he's certainly got a better offensive pedigree and skates better. There's a reason guys like Marchand can get away with playing dirty and not simply chirping, guys like Lucic (Kassian?) are one. Down the road this will only help guys like Kesler, Lapierre and Burrows be more effective. It also takes the pressure off Bieksa from being our only policeman who can play.

Again, time will tell. We'd be stupid to trade Hodgson if we were a young team looking towards the future. This is a team obviously going for it now. The chances of Hodgson effectively replacing Henrik Sedin down the road are extremely slim. Once the Sedins are gone we probably won't be any better than we are now. Asset management. You acquire a traditional "third-line" centre. Your current third line centre can net you a potential (down the road) top-6 beast of a winger and a PP defenceman. I would say Gillis' asset management is pretty good in this one. We traded a future top-6 Centre for a potential future top-6 winger with size and a D-man who's put up amazing numbers wherever he's played.

Certainly better than a Hodgson for Luke Schenn straight up.

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Re: Canucks get Zack Kassian

Post by RoyalDude » Sat Mar 10, 2012 4:13 pm

coco_canuck wrote:
RoyalDude wrote: :bang:
Keep at it, maybe you'll shutdown.

:P
The acquisition of Shutdown Specialist Pahlsson and his exciting brand of hockey, replacing the young skilled Hodgson has me nearly Shut Down from all the excitement that a player of Pahlssson's ilk brings to the table - Shut Down hockey at its finest. I look forward to the great display of fine checking by Pahlsson and zero creativity and will not miss the creative, offensive skill work of Cody Hodgson and that great shot of his and vision for setting teamates up with glorious chances.
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