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Yeah well the thing is some of those guys would be expensive indeed.Uncle dans leg wrote:Who couldn't get excited about Tyler Myers or Vic Hedman? Those 2 would be my fantasy picks from your list Strangler
I am sorry RD. I forgot that you hate players that had some ties with the Panthers. Is it true that Bernier has scored more goals and assists than Moen and/or Weise?? Is that true that Bernier has a cheaper contract than Moen or Weise?? Moen might be a better fighter than Bernier or Weise but he is no Lucic. Moen is an upgrade on Weise because he can kill penalties. The Canucks are full of capable penalty killers, Kesler, Burrows, Malhotra, Higgins, Hansen, Lapierre, and Raymond. Also, you can bet that it would cost MG a lot to acquire Moen. On the other hand, if Bernier can regain his "scoring touch" and get a few goals, would it be a bad idea?? For his contract and pending UFA status, there is basically a no risk move.RoyalDude wrote:Holy shit, is Jovocop huffing scotch guard out of ziplock baggy? I nearly spat out my dinner reading this. It's such a bad job at armchair GM'ing I can't even laugh about it. Bernier? Please tell me you are kidding.Jovocop wrote: Bernier, 26 y.o. $0.525m, has 76g 83a -3 in 386gp (0.41 ppg)
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Bernier has size, scoring ability (only if he can regain his confidence) and is familiar with the AV's system.
The only problem I have with this is that he was given plenty of opportunities to score here. He didn't. What makes you think he'll be able to chip in playing 7-8 minutes/night? My bet would be on him being invisible and having a hard time getting into games. His final season here he played 14 mins/night, with 2+ minutes of PP time. He had 22 points, on pace for a 30 point season. I have my doubts Bernier would be any more effective than Weise. I don't think he's got the speed to get in on the forecheck, he's not nasty enough when he does and frankly we've been down that road before.Jovocop wrote:On the other hand, if Bernier can regain his "scoring touch" and get a few goals, would it be a bad idea?? For his contract and pending UFA status, there is basically a no risk move.
I was sworn to secrecy on this, but fuck it. The reason the Canucks have dealt with the Panthers recently and relieved them of some bigger contracts was to make it affordable for the Panthers to take Luongo's salary if we or he decides to be traded.Jovocop wrote:I forgot that you hate players that had some ties with the Panthers.
I agree. There's likely less than a 1% chance he makes a huge move at the deadline. I would expect more of a Adrian Aucoin type of addition.Strangelove wrote:Yeah well the thing is some of those guys would be expensive indeed.Uncle dans leg wrote:Who couldn't get excited about Tyler Myers or Vic Hedman? Those 2 would be my fantasy picks from your list Strangler
Others not so much.
Prolly Gillis goes the cheaper route, but hey we can dream right?
It'll be interesting to see what GMMG does here.
*strangles some random person*
You can't be serious about this!Strangelove wrote:Plan C:
To random NHL team - Ballard
To Vancouver - 4th round pick 2011
The whole point is that the Canucks will be able to roll four lines. A line of Malhotra/Lapierre/Bernier should be able to take 10+ minutes per night and score a few goals. In the event of any injuries to the top nine, Bernier can slot in without looking lost.Island Nucklehead wrote:The only problem I have with this is that he was given plenty of opportunities to score here. He didn't. What makes you think he'll be able to chip in playing 7-8 minutes/night? My bet would be on him being invisible and having a hard time getting into games. His final season here he played 14 mins/night, with 2+ minutes of PP time. He had 22 points, on pace for a 30 point season. I have my doubts Bernier would be any more effective than Weise. I don't think he's got the speed to get in on the forecheck, he's not nasty enough when he does and frankly we've been down that road before.Jovocop wrote:On the other hand, if Bernier can regain his "scoring touch" and get a few goals, would it be a bad idea?? For his contract and pending UFA status, there is basically a no risk move.
Travis Moen is a true bottom-6 grinder. He's EXACTLY what the Canucks lack, and he knows his role and plays it well. Unfortunately he's injured right now, but depending on the severity it might lower his price at the deadline.
I think Gillis would like nastier versions of Weise and Alberts. Guys that can play gritty minutes and step in when the physicality starts to take a toll in the playoffs. Nobody we bring in is going to back-up a major injury to Sedin/Kesler/Hamhuis/Bieksa etc., it's going to be a depth move and I hope it's for a couple real pricks (to play against, at least).
It looks enticing but I have a feeling Tom Gaglardi isn't going to be too keen on his GM shipping an established vet on a cheap deal to the Canucks.BladesofSteel wrote:Hamhuis Bieksa
Edler Robidas
Ballard Salo
Hmmmm.
I don't think Bernier will cost next to nothing. Putting aside the fact that he played his way off a terrible Florida Panthers team and that he could not get a one-way contract this fall (and in fact had to sign an AHL deal and earn a two-way deal from the Devils), New Jersey is not a rebuilding team - despite the fact that they are in tough to re-sign him they are going to keep Zach Parise and take a run at the playoffs this year. Why would they trade what they think might be an NHL player without either getting an NHL player back or at the very least getting more than he is worth?Jovocop wrote:Like I said, Moen brings more grit but would require a lot more to acquire. As a matter of fact, there might be a bidding war for his service this deadline. On the other hand, Bernier might cost next to nothing.
- BTW this was the suggestion I found most intriguing.Souray (you heard me) - Beast
Okay hockeywidowdhabums wrote:I was sworn to secrecy on this, but fuck it. The reason the Canucks have dealt with the Panthers recently and relieved them of some bigger contracts was to make it affordable for the Panthers to take Luongo's salary if we or he decides to be traded.Jovocop wrote:I forgot that you hate players that had some ties with the Panthers.
You didn't hear it from me.
I can't see Gallardi making a trade with the Aqualini's period !It looks enticing but I have a feeling Tom Gaglardi isn't going to be too keen on his GM shipping an established vet on a cheap deal to the Canucks.
Unless it is an overpayment from Aqualini.Fred wrote:I can't see Gallardi making a trade with the Aqualini's period !It looks enticing but I have a feeling Tom Gaglardi isn't going to be too keen on his GM shipping an established vet on a cheap deal to the Canucks.
Aloharats19 wrote:Cannot be:.........for there is only one Hockeywidow...
