Trade Deadline Discussion
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Bitz sent back to Chicago ?...so it's not his injury maybe they need space to bring in some one else...I guess Pahhlsson
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LQLdhabums wrote:Holy crap, I am going to need to dump my Ellington and Erixon Canucks jerseys in ebay quickly. I really wanted to be the first to wear them when those 2 were in the NHL.Madcombinepilot wrote:well, for all the people who wanted to sell the furture for right now, you kinda got your wish.
We shipped out Coho, Erixon, Ellington and two 4ths for right now.
The farm really only has Schroeder and Connauton left.
If Ellington and Erixon were part of our future, maybe its best we find a new path.
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dhabums wrote:Holy crap, I am going to need to dump my Ellington and Erixon Canucks jerseys in ebay quickly. I really wanted to be the first to wear them when those 2 were in the NHL.Madcombinepilot wrote:well, for all the people who wanted to sell the furture for right now, you kinda got your wish.
We shipped out Coho, Erixon, Ellington and two 4ths for right now.
The farm really only has Schroeder and Connauton left.
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Hahaha - nice.dhabums wrote:Holy crap, I am going to need to dump my Ellington and Erixon Canucks jerseys in ebay quickly. I really wanted to be the first to wear them when those 2 were in the NHL.Madcombinepilot wrote:well, for all the people who wanted to sell the furture for right now, you kinda got your wish.
We shipped out Coho, Erixon, Ellington and two 4ths for right now.
The farm really only has Schroeder and Connauton left.
I'll give you Ellington (33rd overall in 2007) and Erixon (FA), but as for the 4th round picks, the Canucks picked up promising prospects there over the last few drafts:
Patrick McNally 115th in 2010
Joseph Labate 101st in 2011
But 4th rounders are long shots, and I'm pretty sure Pahlsson will provide what Malhotra was supposed to.
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I think Vcrs depth right now after Schroeder, Rodin, Polasek, Lack and Connauton is yet to hit the AHL. Players like McNally, Price, Labate, Jensen, Grenier, Cannata, Corrado I'm thinking we'll get some thing out of that bunchMadcombinepilot wrote:well, for all the people who wanted to sell the furture for right now, you kinda got your wish.
We shipped out Coho, Erixon, Ellington and two 4ths for right now.
The farm really only has Schroeder and Connauton left.
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And Kassian and Gragnani are kids too so what the hell are you prattling on about ?Madcombinepilot wrote:well, for all the people who wanted to sell the furture for right now, you kinda got your wish.
We shipped out Coho, Erixon, Ellington and two 4ths for right now.
The farm really only has Schroeder and Connauton left.
Kassian is younger than Hodgson .........
Ellington has as much chance of cracking the big leagues as Prab Rai and Vancouver had an extra 4th rounder from the Ehrhoff deal. Erixon would likely have never played here. The way you make it sound is that Gillis gutted the youth on the team .
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In before the incoherent RD rant on the trades.
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When you read the comments I honestly don't think people do realize that. They are talking about Kassian as if he's been bouncing around the AHL for 4 or 5 years unable to crack an NHL lineup.Blob Mckenzie wrote: Kassian is younger than Hodgson .........you do realize that don't you ?
He just turned 21 last month. He is in his first pro year and put up near PPG and 40 goal pace in 30 games in the AHL. He's had a 27 game audition at various times in the NHL this season and in a limited role and under 12 minutes of icetime is scoring at a 21 point pace which is pretty damn good. A pace that far exceeds the likes of Weise, Volpatti, Oreo etc etc etc. He is a hell of a prospect that likely can contribute now.
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Kassian was drafted the year after Hodgson, no?
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You can't put too much weight on how Buffalo's AHL players do - they're perennially good. Kassian's had difficulties adjusting to the NHL game, but he does well on a 3rd or 4th line. He'll grow into a 2nd liner, but he's limited right now. A big reason he's had any ice time in the NHL is because of how hurt Buffalo has been this season (at one point we had 9 players out of or regular lineup).tantalum wrote:When you read the comments I honestly don't think people do realize that. They are talking about Kassian as if he's been bouncing around the AHL for 4 or 5 years unable to crack an NHL lineup.Blob Mckenzie wrote: Kassian is younger than Hodgson .........you do realize that don't you ?
He just turned 21 last month. He is in his first pro year and put up near PPG and 40 goal pace in 30 games in the AHL. He's had a 27 game audition at various times in the NHL this season and in a limited role and under 12 minutes of icetime is scoring at a 21 point pace which is pretty damn good. A pace that far exceeds the likes of Weise, Volpatti, Oreo etc etc etc. He is a hell of a prospect that likely can contribute now.
Not to say he's not going to be good, I just don't want you to think that he's going to come in and make a huge difference right away.
Marc-Andre Gragnani, on the other hand, is going to drive you nuts. He will look amazing one day, and make blind (like, channeling his inner Helen Keller) passes that make you wonder if he ever looks up. He is young though, and perhaps a change of scenery is exactly what he needed.
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As someone before mentioned, Gragnani played for Vigneault in junior. We know how AV likes to coach his ex-players. Lapierre comes to mind as a successful convert to our system.
The other thing of note is Kassian's contract -- 2 more years at $870k. Half of CoHo's salary with an extra year on the deal.
The other thing of note is Kassian's contract -- 2 more years at $870k. Half of CoHo's salary with an extra year on the deal.
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Injuries is how every young player who starts in the AHL gets a call up. I don't expect him to be a second line player this year and I fully expect a young player to have trouble adjusting to the NHL. Hodgson, while having a good season has had all sorts of growing pains. So many that numerous people who are pissed at this deal wanted him in the minors 30 games ago. They are both young players trying to establish themselves in the NHL.nyintensity wrote: You can't put too much weight on how Buffalo's AHL players do - they're perennially good. Kassian's had difficulties adjusting to the NHL game, but he does well on a 3rd or 4th line. He'll grow into a 2nd liner, but he's limited right now. A big reason he's had any ice time in the NHL is because of how hurt Buffalo has been this season (at one point we had 9 players out of or regular lineup).
I don't think anyone expects that. I expect he will be on the 4th line and if he's having a good game he may get shuffled around a bit. It's what AV does.Not to say he's not going to be good, I just don't want you to think that he's going to come in and make a huge difference right away.
He is young and you have to wonder how much of his trouble is him or the team. If the Sabres don't have forwards coming back and providing the D-men with targets for the outlet pass a D--man can turn it over pretty darn quick and leave you shaking your head. I imagine he'll be insulated in Vancouver and who knows with some different coaching he might begin to thrive. As much as Sabre fans go on about him I expected his advanced stats to be terrible. They aren't. They are quite good. The canucks needed some blueline depth and very few D-men moved today that could provide it for a decent cap hit.Marc-Andre Gragnani, on the other hand, is going to drive you nuts. He will look amazing one day, and make blind (like, channeling his inner Helen Keller) passes that make you wonder if he ever looks up. He is young though, and perhaps a change of scenery is exactly what he needed.
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You make very good, very valid points. I hope that you're spot on with all of them, and that both our teams are better because of these trades.
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Great pick up by the leaves in getting Carter Ashton, shi-ite I was hoping to get him in some sort of Schneider deal.
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It was a good pickup for Burke but he sent up the white flag on his playoff hopes IMO if his goaltending doesn't make a drastic turn for the better.RoyalDude wrote:Great pick up by the leaves in getting Carter Ashton, shi-ite I was hoping to get him in some sort of Schneider deal.
Aulie played for Boucher as part of team canada and Boucher likes the kid. He's a big kid but has been slow in developing. Still only 22 year old though or something. A little surprised Yzerman moved Ashton but he clearly has his forward ranks set in his mind for the next few years. Looks less likely that Connolly will be moved now though.