Corey Perry to Canucks Rumour

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Rumour is going around Perry to Canucks for Hodgson, Raymond & Ballard.

http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/01/09 ... ry-rumour/

Probably just speculation, but not sure I'd do this deal. As much as I like Perry, I'm not sure I'm willing to give up CoHo at the moment. Sub in Schneids for CoHo and it might work.

Probably a more realistic guy to get is Shane Doan. Not sure if Phoenix is going anywhere and I think Doan is UFA, think it would be their best interest to move him and get something for him. He'll probably command alot though.

Maybe:
Booth and Ballard (throw in Schroeder)
for Doan?

[Jovocop]

I hate Perry. He is just another Matt Cooke with skills. The only player that I want from the Ducks is Getzlaf. Both of them are assholes if you ask me but at least Getzlaf backs it up instead of turtling 99% of the time.

[Fred]

You have to wonder if Hodgson's agent is pushing to see his client at another address, maybe threatening MG he won't resign

[ukcanuck]

You have to wonder if Hodgson's agent is pushing to see his client at another address, maybe threatening MG he won't resign

lets hope that one dies where it was born...

[ESQ]

You have to wonder if Hodgson's agent is pushing to see his client at another address, maybe threatening MG he won't resign

Hmm, no, I don't have to wonder that at all.

Probably just speculation, but not sure I'd do this deal. As much as I like Perry, I'm not sure I'm willing to give up CoHo at the moment.

Tough call, this is how I usually look at it: Corey Perry is a (well-deserved, IMO) Hart Trophy Winner. That is an extremely elite club, with only a few exceptions (Theodore). They rarely change teams. One exception is Pronger, who takes his team to the finals every time he changes teams, the others from the last decade are Theodore and Forsberg.

I went through the same thing with the Brad Richards trade rumours - you never see a Conn Smythe winner move, except for Giguere and Claude Lemieux (going back to 94).

But the problem with Richards was, the price was too damn high. If you can get a guy like that for what Anaheim or Philly paid for Pronger, you do it in a heartbeat. The same goes for Perry ( who I'd take over Getzlaf) - I'd give up a lot, but not Raymond, Hodgson, and Ballard.

[wienerdog]

Our current team would be markedly worse without Raymond, Coho, and Ballard - even with the addtion of a highly skilled player like Perry. This is a dumb manouever to make in a contention year.

Also, Perry is a douche. Hardly the kind of player that fits the MG mold of player.

Don't see it.

[BladesofSteel]

You have to wonder if Hodgson's agent is pushing to see his client at another address, maybe threatening MG he won't resign

You should go work for the Province.

[Reefer2]

If Ballard is gone would RD ever post again on this site?

[tantalum]

Swap out Hodgson for just about any other prospect/pick type piece or pieces and you absolutely do it. Of course Anaheim may not.

To get Perry the canucks will need to move Hodgson or Tanev or Schneider. I'm not sure I do it with Hodgson without knowing how he is going to respond down the stretch in the playoffs. Hodgson just seems like a kid that might bring his best come playoff time. That said, it wouldn't be a bad trade per se if Hodgson were involved as Perry is a heck of a player and having Booth, healthy Kesler and Perry in the top 6 make sit a much bigger and girttier top 6 than last season.

[Madcombinepilot]

I am not sure Perry is the guy for this team. While I like the thought of having a gritty 40 goal scorer on the second line, I am not sure I want him. While perry would fit the 'cheap shot, dirty, diving' motif being painted on us by the media (all EBL's), I am not sure we need any more of those gusy right now.

Once Booth gets healthy, I dont think we eare looking to trade any of our players (except perhaps Malhotra). I think other teams are calling us. Any trades we make this year are of the 'fleece the otehr team' type. We are dealing from a position of strength, because really, this team was good enough to go to game 7 last year, so we dont have to sell the farm to go out and get a guy. If we can make up a couple pickups like last year (lappy and higgins) where we dont sell the farm to do so, then cool. But I am not selling Coho or Schnieds or any of the future.

[Boston Canucker]

This rumor is of course bs, but regardless Hodgson should not be going anywhere. He's showing more and more confidence with every game and provides precisely the kind of scoring depth (at a cheap cap hit) that a top team needs. Plus, he's positioned to move up the depth chart in the long run. The only deal MG will likely make will be for a d-man. I ink it'll be fairly quiet for us otherwise come deadline day.

[Island Nucklehead]

This rumor is of course bs, but regardless Hodgson should not be going anywhere. He's showing more and more confidence with every game and provides precisely the kind of scoring depth (at a cheap cap hit) that a top team needs. Plus, he's positioned to move up the depth chart in the long run. The only deal MG will likely make will be for a d-man. I ink it'll be fairly quiet for us otherwise come deadline day.

I'd have to agree. What's the rush? We already have Sedin-Burrows, Higgins-Booth, Raymond-Hansen on the wings when healthy. Adding Perry into the mix only makes a guy like Hansen a fourth liner, great for depth but he needs more than 6-7 mins/night to be cost-effective.

I like the way Lapierre has played this season, but thrusting him into the third line C spot is dangerous. Obviously if we lose Hank or Kes we're in a world of hurt, but our C depth takes a SERIOUS hit if we roll with Sedin-Kesler-Lapierre-Malhotra. We're deep enough up front. There's also the salary cap to consider, where you'd have the Sedins, Kesler, Perry and Booth pushing us towards $30M.

If there's anywhere to upgrade it's the back-end. That would be a lateral move at best, imo. Ballard knows the system, and although he makes some bone-headed plays on occasion, it could be a case of "the devil you know" when discussing adding another D-man later in the season. I'd love a guy like Bryan Allen for his mean streak, but IMO he replaces Alberts, not Ballard.

If Ballard is moved at all, it's in the offseason, probably to do with dealing or re-signing Schneider. The way Hodgson has played lately, 13 points in 19 games compared to 14 in 16 for Perry, means he's got seriously value for the Canucks moving forward. This isn't a case of sell-high, because chances are he's only going to get better... It might not even be a stretch to see Hodgson surpass Kesler as the teams second-best offesnive centre.

[tantalum]

If you bring in a guy like Perry it means one of Raymond or Hansen is on the move (likely Raymond from a canucks perspective). What it does is put Higgins and Hansen on the third line with Hodgson which would be a strong third line. It adds size, big game play and grit to the top 6 without sacrificing much in what Raymond brings to the team. If you can do the deal without Hodgson or Edler and make the money work it's a no brainer in all honesty Same goes for Ryan instead of Perry, though I like Perry more. and by like I mean Hate.

Reputation be damned. Perry is a Hart trophy winner and better goal scorer than anyone on the canucks. He's a huge upgrade on Raymond or Hansen.

Now it would likely also necessitate moving Ballard so you need to find a way to save money on the back end without compromising the quality as well.

The other think to keep in mind is that Gilman has flat out said that no one should think online sources (i.e. cap geek) know what the canucks cap situation actually is. He's basically saying the canucks have more wiggle room than most think.

[Jovocop]

If you bring in a guy like Perry it means one of Raymond or Hansen is on the move (likely Raymond from a canucks perspective). What it does is put Higgins and Hansen on the third line with Hodgson which would be a strong third line. It adds size, big game play and grit to the top 6 without sacrificing much in what Raymond brings to the team. If you can do the deal without Hodgson or Edler and make the money work it's a no brainer in all honesty Same goes for Ryan instead of Perry, though I like Perry more. and by like I mean Hate.

Reputation be damned. Perry is a Hart trophy winner and better goal scorer than anyone on the canucks. He's a huge upgrade on Raymond or Hansen.

Now it would likely also necessitate moving Ballard so you need to find a way to save money on the back end without compromising the quality as well.

The other think to keep in mind is that Gilman has flat out said that no one should think online sources (i.e. cap geek) know what the canucks cap situation actually is. He's basically saying the canucks have more wiggle room than most think.

Perry is an asshole. A very stinky one indeed. I know Perry would instantly upgrade our forward but at the same time it may affect the team chemistry. Imagine MG trades Raymond for that fuxking rat, it is kind of against MG's philosophy.. Although I would not put Perry in that same category as the rat, Perry is still a very dirty player.

[Vpete]

If you bring in a guy like Perry it means one of Raymond or Hansen is on the move (likely Raymond from a canucks perspective). What it does is put Higgins and Hansen on the third line with Hodgson which would be a strong third line. It adds size, big game play and grit to the top 6 without sacrificing much in what Raymond brings to the team. If you can do the deal without Hodgson or Edler and make the money work it's a no brainer in all honesty Same goes for Ryan instead of Perry, though I like Perry more. and by like I mean Hate.

Reputation be damned. Perry is a Hart trophy winner and better goal scorer than anyone on the canucks. He's a huge upgrade on Raymond or Hansen.

Now it would likely also necessitate moving Ballard so you need to find a way to save money on the back end without compromising the quality as well.

The other think to keep in mind is that Gilman has flat out said that no one should think online sources (i.e. cap geek) know what the canucks cap situation actually is. He's basically saying the canucks have more wiggle room than most think.

I have some friends who know Gilman quite well from his days in Winnipeg and say he is a near genius when it comes to numbers and how he manages. One guy told me he wouldn't be surprised if Gilman was helping the league figure out cap issues.

As for Perry- not sure a line of Booth, Kesler Perry just looks scary but what is the compromise to get him? I'm not sure it's worth it to the Canucks to make that move