Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby ukcanuck on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:28 pm

Fred wrote:
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I shouldn't have been so lazy and checked :D , a bit convoluted re Luongo I thought.


no kidding, standing in front of a slapshot from the weakest shooter in the NHL is insane for most mere mortals. I cant think of any goalie in the pros who should be considered soft....soft in the head maybe :? :?
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Potatoe1 on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:01 pm

Fred wrote:Here's an article not generated from Vcr that lists what they believe is the softest players in the league

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9535 ... in-the-nhl

we have 3 of them :D


What idiot lists Sydney Crosby as one of the softest players in the league?

That article is automatically void.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Rayxor on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:50 pm

They seem to change the definition of soft from player to player.

Its one or a combo of: 1. does not play a physical game. 2. gets hurt a lot. 3. Is an agitator that doesn't fight much. 4. big player who doesn't use his size effectively. 5. a known diver or whiner. 6. will disappear in physical games. 7. seems to lack heart or desire. 8. Is not "mentally tough" 9. gets paid too much.

Some guys rank high in one category but would be very low in another. The list seems heavily skewed to events within the past 6 months. The columnist should have just titled it "Here are some players i don't really like for various reasons."

Matt Cooke would be among the top of the list for criteria 3 and 5 but does not make the grade. Whatever, man.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Cornuck on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:58 pm

Rayxor wrote:Matt Cooke would be among the top of the list for criteria 3 and 5 but does not make the grade. Whatever, man.


It's the Bleacher Report - do any of their articles make sense?
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Fred on Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:52 pm

Great point brought up on the Cooke hit on Savard.....there was no repercussion in the game when it happened just like the Lucic/Miller hit. Sure Cooke was called out in the following game much as I suspect Lucic will be called out tonight
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby dhabums on Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:18 pm

Cornuck wrote:
Rayxor wrote:Matt Cooke would be among the top of the list for criteria 3 and 5 but does not make the grade. Whatever, man.


It's the Bleacher Report - do any of their articles make sense?



Funny that Avery, a guy with 80 career NHL fights made the list. Reads more like a list of "guys I hate" by the author.

I do applaud the NHL for giving credentials to retards, it's good to lend a helping hand.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby coco_canuck on Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:47 pm

You can learn a lot about someone from what they read and what sources they deem legitimate or even discussion worthy.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby herb on Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:21 am

coco_canuck wrote:You can learn a lot about someone from what they read and what sources they deem legitimate or even discussion worthy.


:P

What are you implying coco? That somebody who regularly reads the National Enquirer, erm I mean the Bleacher Report, may not exude intelligence, intellect and insight?
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Fred on Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:36 am

I guess you could say some folks divulge a small mean spirit when they post :scowl:
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Blob Mckenzie on Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:18 am

Kind of odd that we as Canuck fans all wrapped up in our own myopic world rarely if ever mention why the Bruins won the cup. It's always a littany of reasons why Vancouver lost the finals, as opposed to giving the other team any credit for winning.

The Bruins won because they played a great defensive game. They got stellar goaltending- Tim Thomas was a fucking brick wall. They imposed thier physical will on the Canucks regardless of whether the officiating was sketchy or not ,and it definitely was BTW. A big part of Boston's game is toughness and physical play and that is part of the reason they won. Not to mention Zdeno Chara turning into a bigger faster Larry Robinson and giving one of the most dominant performances on the back end I have ever seen.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby herb on Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:26 am

Totally agree Blob. There were two teams playing.

As much as I think injuries were a huge factor for us, the bottom line is that the Bruins played well enough to win the series and the Canucks did not. Thomas was essentially unbeatable.

Even if 100% healthy and with the best officiating possible, the Canucks were in very tough against Thomas and Chara.

I hate Boston.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby dbr on Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:46 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Kind of odd that we as Canuck fans all wrapped up in our own myopic world rarely if ever mention why the Bruins won the cup. It's always a littany of reasons why Vancouver lost the finals, as opposed to giving the other team any credit for winning.


It's probably pretty natural for fans. That series seemed pretty winnable at the outset (and extremely winnable when the good guys were up 2-0) so it's certainly relevant to consider why it slipped away.

And the Bruins definitely deserve credit (and I agree with your evaluation of their strengths in that series) but for a group of people who watch the Canucks play 82 + playoffs it's probably more comfortable to consider how our team can avoid past mistakes and get back to the Finals than to consider how good that fucking Bruins squad is.

But yeah.. their two best players were probably the two best players in the series, there isn't much that's going to counter that.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Potatoe1 on Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:10 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Kind of odd that we as Canuck fans all wrapped up in our own myopic world rarely if ever mention why the Bruins won the cup. It's always a littany of reasons why Vancouver lost the finals, as opposed to giving the other team any credit for winning.

The Bruins won because they played a great defensive game. They got stellar goaltending- Tim Thomas was a fucking brick wall. They imposed thier physical will on the Canucks regardless of whether the officiating was sketchy or not ,and it definitely was BTW. A big part of Boston's game is toughness and physical play and that is part of the reason they won. Not to mention Zdeno Chara turning into a bigger faster Larry Robinson and giving one of the most dominant performances on the back end I have ever seen.


I'm not sure anyone would disagree, they are a very good team.

That said the Canucks are not going to beat the Bruins by being more like the Bruins. They are going to beat the Bruins with better puck movement, higher skill, better special teams, and goaltending that is at least somewhat comparable.

Our ability to do the things that makes "us" a very good team was significantly impaired by the injury situation and the massive gap in goaltending.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Larry Goodenough on Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:10 pm

Potatoe1 wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Kind of odd that we as Canuck fans all wrapped up in our own myopic world rarely if ever mention why the Bruins won the cup. It's always a littany of reasons why Vancouver lost the finals, as opposed to giving the other team any credit for winning.

The Bruins won because they played a great defensive game. They got stellar goaltending- Tim Thomas was a fucking brick wall. They imposed thier physical will on the Canucks regardless of whether the officiating was sketchy or not ,and it definitely was BTW. A big part of Boston's game is toughness and physical play and that is part of the reason they won. Not to mention Zdeno Chara turning into a bigger faster Larry Robinson and giving one of the most dominant performances on the back end I have ever seen.


I'm not sure anyone would disagree, they are a very good team.

That said the Canucks are not going to beat the Bruins by being more like the Bruins. They are going to beat the Bruins with better puck movement, higher skill, better special teams, and goaltending that is at least somewhat comparable.

Our ability to do the things that makes "us" a very good team was significantly impaired by the injury situation and the massive gap in goaltending.


Injuires were an issue, as was travel. The travel stuff is rarely mentioned.

Vancouver traveled over 51,000 miles during the regular season (3rd most in the league), while Boston traveled 35,000 miles (21st in the league).

Then Vancouver was jetting to Chicago (1770 miles), Nashville (2030 miles) and San Jose (824 miles), for a total distance of over 4600 miles. Meanwhile Boston was going to to Montreal (250 miles), Philladelphia (270 miles) and Tampa (1180 miles) for 1700 total miles. So, before these 2 team met, one had travelled almost 3 times as during the playoffs, while the other never left their time zone.

Call it an excuse all you want. The science is there that this put one team at a disadvantage.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Rumsfeld on Thu Nov 24, 2011 1:51 pm

coco_canuck wrote:You can learn a lot about someone from what they read and what sources they deem legitimate or even discussion worthy.


You sure can, coco.

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