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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Island Nucklehead on Tue Nov 22, 2011 6:51 pm

Potatoe1 wrote:And of course the only reason the Bruins were able to drag that series into the gutter was because the Canucks power play couldn't score.

Basically a perfect storm, toughest team in the league vs. anyone who cant score on the power play. Not exactly a situation that was conducive to a Canuck win.


Well that and the rules change the deeper you get in the playoffs. It's not a secret, and the Canucks have done almost nothing fix that. In fact, they are even MORE reliant on the PP this year (at least thus far).

The Canucks weren't going to win that series with toughness. But it's a very bitter pill to swallow when your team is obviously physically weaker AND loses. There's no doubt the more skilled team lost, but that's why the games are played.

Either way, Recchi's words, and his actions in that series (finger waving etc.) shows what a goof he is. This is a 41 year old man acting like a 20 year old. Love how AV responded... basically took the high road and pointed out how classless Recchi is.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Potatoe1 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:11 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Potatoe1 wrote:And of course the only reason the Bruins were able to drag that series into the gutter was because the Canucks power play couldn't score.

Basically a perfect storm, toughest team in the league vs. anyone who cant score on the power play. Not exactly a situation that was conducive to a Canuck win.


Well that and the rules change the deeper you get in the playoffs. It's not a secret, and the Canucks have done almost nothing fix that. In fact, they are even MORE reliant on the PP this year (at least thus far).



It didn't matter that much that the rules changed.....

Just the threat of a 20%+ power play would have kept the Bruins honest.

Unfortunately however, our power play was like 5%.... Yeah if that's the case Im going to punch your best player in the face and kick your goalie in the balls.

And toughness has nothing to do with it. There isn't a player in the league who isn't willing to lose a fight to win a cup. That is just a bunch of crap fans make up. The average pro or even jr. hockey player, is a lot less afraid of a punch in the face then people think.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Island Nucklehead on Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:43 pm

Potatoe1 wrote:
It didn't matter that much that the rules changed.....

Just the threat of a 20%+ power play would have kept the Bruins honest.

Unfortunately however, our power play was like 5%.... Yeah if that's the case Im going to punch your best player in the face and kick your goalie in the balls.


The Bruins have MUCH more to gain by playing that way, pushing the envelope. They didn't decide to start playing that way because the Canucks PP went cold. The Canucks were operating at something like 37% vs San Jose. What did Boston do game one? Gave us 6 PP's. They were hell bent on beating the piss out of us and it worked.

And toughness has nothing to do with it. There isn't a player in the league who isn't willing to lose a fight to win a cup. That is just a bunch of crap fans make up. The average pro or even jr. hockey player, is a lot less afraid of a punch in the face then people think.


Gee, tell that to the Sedins then. They get punched in the face to lose the Cup. It's fine to not let their antics get you off your game, it's something completely different to show no emotion and look at the ref with pleading eyes...
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Potatoe1 on Tue Nov 22, 2011 8:37 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:The Bruins have MUCH more to gain by playing that way, pushing the envelope. They didn't decide to start playing that way because the Canucks PP went cold.


Yes they did.

The Bruins went more "into the gutter" as the series went on. If the Canucks were torching them on the power play the would have backed off.


What did Boston do game one? Gave us 6 PP's. They were hell bent on beating the piss out of us and it worked.


If we had scored on the PP they would have stopped.

Gee, tell that to the Sedins then. They get punched in the face to lose the Cup. I


The Sedins took the punches because they thought it was the right thing to do. They are not the slightest bit scared of Brad Marchand.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Tiger on Wed Nov 23, 2011 1:08 am

So the question remains the same. Maybe the PP wasn't effective because Thomas played great in goal ? or was it a TOUGH defensive PK unit ? or maybe a bit of both.. Once Kesler and Hamhuis were injured and Rome suspended.. not much in the way of toughness left .. Or was it because of poor defensive play by our first line? I watched the regular season game against the Bruins.. guess what ? Yep we lost that one too :) I remember posting that I thought we were watching a preview of the SC finals.. and we'd better play a tougher game.
I get tired of listening to the old cliche.. our best players have to be our best players but its true..and 3 out of 4 weren't ( Luongo being added to the Sedin bash) .
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby dbr on Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:38 am

coco_canuck wrote:Umm, how are they one dimensional?

As far as I can tell they're good in goal, on defense, on offense, in the face-off circle, on special teams...and I can go on if you like.


That's one dimension. The hockey dimension is the one dimension this one dimensional roster is good at.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Potatoe1 on Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:57 am

Tiger wrote:So the question remains the same. Maybe the PP wasn't effective because Thomas played great in goal ? or was it a TOUGH defensive PK unit ?


So now we are blaming the lack of power play success on our apparent lack of toughness....

The way some folks go on, one would think the ability to punch people in the face was a core skill.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Rumsfeld on Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:01 am

Rebuild rebuild rebuild!

I want a power play that isn't scared to drop the gloves at the first sign of belligerence! We have to be the toughest, most talented, most disciplined team in the league to have success like the Bruins! Loud noises!
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Puck on Wed Nov 23, 2011 11:52 am

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Gee, tell that to the Sedins then. They get punched in the face to lose the Cup. I


The Sedins took the punches because they thought it was the right thing to do. They are not the slightest bit scared of Brad Marchand.

This has been precisely my point all along. In what way is being able to take a punch (in this case many) suddenly NOT considered tough?!?! If we weren't living in the Bizarro-world of NHL officiating, Marchand gets 2 mins after at least punch number 3. If Daniel then buries it on the PP, we're still talking about how disciplined and tough he was to take the punch(es), not retaliate, and get revenge on the scoreboard. Instead we have this totally f*cked-up refrain that Daniel isn't tough. The absurdity of this whole issue is mind-boggling.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Fred on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:03 pm

Here's an article not generated from Vcr that lists what they believe is the softest players in the league

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9535 ... in-the-nhl

we have 3 of them :D
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby dbr on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:07 pm

Fred wrote:Here's an article not generated from Vcr


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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Jovocop on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:12 pm

Fred wrote:Here's an article not generated from Vcr that lists what they believe is the softest players in the league

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9535 ... in-the-nhl

we have 3 of them :D


All 15 players are skilled players with the exception of Sean Avery. Their main focus is to make plays and score goals, not intimating opposition. My definition of "soft hockey player" are players who shy away from hits or traffics. The Sedins don't fight but they take lots of beating without backing down. Yes, it would be nice if they could fight back at times but that's not part of their game.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Benjo on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:15 pm

I have never seen 2 players take crosschecks like the Sedins do and still manage to keep on the puck and make plays. To take punishment like that on a nightly basis and be called soft is beyond ridiculous.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby Fred on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:20 pm

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I shouldn't have been so lazy and checked :D , a bit convoluted re Luongo I thought.
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Re: Kamloops very own Mark Recchi

Postby ukcanuck on Wed Nov 23, 2011 12:25 pm

Fred wrote:Here's an article not generated from Vcr that lists what they believe is the softest players in the league

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9535 ... in-the-nhl

we have 3 of them :D


An article like that isn't going to convince me that the Sedins are soft in the sense they are using the term. The style of play they are famous for is anything but soft, going into the corner to cycle the puck is by definition a tough job. I have to admit I don't like the diving but that seems to be more acceptable coming from Europe and football than it is for us as North Americans. To be fair, it seems like diving is just part of doing whatever you can to win.
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