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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Boston Canucker » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:23 pm

Wow, it's about who gets the best player in a deal, and we got him, giving up no prospects, crazy. It will wash out to only a half mill cap save this year, but jeepers, he's only 26, get him going to his potential and you've nabbed a top 6 forward for next to nothing, great!
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rumsfeld » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:27 pm

I wonder if the cash-strapped Panthers getting to unload Reinprecht's contract was a closer on this deal.

It just seems like a dumb hockey trade for Florida. Not that we haven't seen that movie before.
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Southern_Canuck » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:30 pm

Hank wrote:What?! 4.25 million for a marginal player who's stats are padded on the awful Florida Panthers, to play on our 2nd and 3rd lines until 2015? And we lose two vets who are capable of scoring 25+ goals? What a shitty trade! I'm going to bitch all year about this!

(tongue planted firmly in cheek)


At least this time Gillis didn't give up a Calder Trophy candidate and a 1st round pick for a risky long contract.

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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Corb » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:32 pm

Southern_Canuck wrote:
Hank wrote:What?! 4.25 million for a marginal player who's stats are padded on the awful Florida Panthers, to play on our 2nd and 3rd lines until 2015? And we lose two vets who are capable of scoring 25+ goals? What a shitty trade! I'm going to bitch all year about this!

(tongue planted firmly in cheek)


At least this time Gillis didn't give up a Calder Trophy candidate and a 1st round pick for a risky long contract.

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Good Lord. :crazy:
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rumsfeld » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:34 pm

Corb wrote:
Southern_Canuck wrote:
Hank wrote:What?! 4.25 million for a marginal player who's stats are padded on the awful Florida Panthers, to play on our 2nd and 3rd lines until 2015? And we lose two vets who are capable of scoring 25+ goals? What a shitty trade! I'm going to bitch all year about this!

(tongue planted firmly in cheek)


At least this time Gillis didn't give up a Calder Trophy candidate and a 1st round pick for a risky long contract.

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Good Lord. :crazy:


It's happening again! :o
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rudypoo » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:41 pm

So many subplots for a deal involving marginal 2nd liners!

-Surprised Gillis would deal Sturm so quickly after signing him. A (minor) red flag for future UFA's looking at Vancouver?
-Also surprised Sammy would get traded when the coaching staff so obviously considers him an important component on the PP point. More time opened up for KB4? Knowing AV, my money's on Malhotra getting the nod.
-Canucks obviously got the most potential upside with Booth. Can't argue with that...and it seems that when we acquire "iron men" they inevitably get injured anyway, so why not pick up a guy with serious injury concerns and see how things work out?
-Speaking of Booth, how long before he hears it from the fans for not living up to his cap hit? :lol:
-From the outside looking in, Sammy sure appeared to be a huge part of the leadership group. That could be a hurtful loss. I also believe he was still capable of repeating his 2009-10 playoff performance so there's a potential downside.

All in all, a very MG type trade in it's calculated riskiness. I give it the thumbs up, as long as Booth pots 40 :mrgreen:

*EDIT

At face value (and based on MG's comments), this move would also seem to indicate that the Canucks don't believe CoHo is ready. Along with moving out Sturm, that seems like two hasty decisions to me.
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby BladesofSteel » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:43 pm

A dumb guy who knows absolutely nothing suggested 6 hours ago Vancouver has a deal for Turris in place, pending on another deal with FLA to open up cap space.

Well, the first trade has taken place. I just don't see Gillis making a serious pitch for a kid who would be redundant on a roster loaded with centre depth. Why? Becuase he's a local kid and former top pick?

Fuck Turris, target Shane Doan!!
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Hank » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:45 pm

Rumsfeld wrote:
Corb wrote:
Southern_Canuck wrote:
At least this time Gillis didn't give up a Calder Trophy candidate and a 1st round pick for a risky long contract.

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Good Lord. :crazy:


It's happening again! :o


Lol! Is anyone surprised?
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Corb » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:46 pm

I think it is pretty laughable to think that a potential UFA's would view Sturm's trade as a deciding factor on not wanting to play here. I think, even they, would see that he's sucked balls.
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rudypoo » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:46 pm

Hank wrote:
Lol! Is anyone surprised?


Marco Sturm? :D
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rumsfeld » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:47 pm

BladesofSteel wrote:A dumb guy who knows absolutely nothing suggested 6 hours ago Vancouver has a deal with Turris in place pending on whether they can open up cap space through a deal with FLA.

Well, the first trade has taken place. I just don't see Gillis making a serious pitch for a kid who would be redundant on a roster loaded with centre depth. Why? Becuase he's a local kid and former top pick?

Fuck Turris, target Shane Doan!!


Yeah, I don't see it. We're loaded at center and we barely cleared any cap space with this deal. But ADGWKAN's track record is pretty impressive...
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rudypoo » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:51 pm

Corb wrote:I think it is pretty laughable to think that a potential UFA's would view Sturm's trade as a deciding factor on not wanting to play here. I think, even they, would see that he's sucked balls.


I think they will look at the fact that the Canucks are trying to win, and that (along with $$$ obviously) will be the deciding factor.

But there's a certain element there of not giving a guy a legitimate chance to play his way into form.

That's why I said it may be a minor consideration.
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Rumsfeld » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:53 pm

Rudypoo wrote:At face value (and based on MG's comments), this move would also seem to indicate that the Canucks don't believe CoHo is ready. Along with moving out Sturm, that seems like two hasty decisions to me.


I don't think this deal speaks to Hodgson's readiness at all. Sturm and Sammy were earning big money and playing like shit and somebody was willing to take them off our hands for the type of player this team desperately needs.

I would have been shocked to hear Gillis was offered this deal and didn't take it.

I think Booth is going to be great here.

I'm off to get hammered.
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby tantalum » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:55 pm

When it comes to SC all threads must eventually turn into the Ballard-Grabner trade. It's the canuck board version of Godwin's Law.

Gillis traded an aging spare part who just didn't fit in (so be it) and an aging support player who has been injured and showing uninspired play for sometime for a guy who at worst will be a support player but MAY develop into a core player.

It's a win.
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Re: Canucks Acquire David Booth & Parts

Postby Mr.Miyagi » Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:56 pm

By all indication a great deal by Gillis IMO.

Sturm might as well not even played he was so unnoticable and Samuelsson has been kind of "meh" following his off season surgery, and before it, too.

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