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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby Topper » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:57 am

Cornuck wrote:What I don't understand is, why are there so many Canuck jerseys at our road games?

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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby rats19 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:01 pm

And Its everywhere not just snowbird country....it cool to hate the best and the best place on earth..simple envy...no worries it makes for good copy Is all.
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby donlever » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:05 pm

..I just don't get why anyone cares.

Canucks are this, that and the other thing...blah, blah, add rhetoric (ad nauseum).

Canucks fans are (insert moronic comment here)...

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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby mathonwy » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:06 pm

Cornuck wrote:What I don't understand is, why are there so many Canuck jerseys at our road games?

Because its easy to jump on the bandwagon of a winner.

And the bandwagoners take ownership of the Canucks as their team (as long as they're winning) and start chirping the fans of the other teams and around and around we go.

Sorta like how everyone hates the LA Lakers. After Shaq left, nobody on that team is particularly likable but Kobe still won championships.

Fuck, I pray to whatever hockey god out there that the Canucks DO win the Stanley Cup. It wouldn't solve all my problems but it sure would help.
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby okcanuck » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:13 pm

rats19 wrote:And Its everywhere not just snowbird country....it cool to hate the best and the best place on earth..simple envy...no worries it makes for good copy Is all.


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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby Cornuck » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:16 pm

mathonwy wrote:
Cornuck wrote:What I don't understand is, why are there so many Canuck jerseys at our road games?

Because its easy to jump on the bandwagon of a winner.


Yeah - I get that. But I thought that we're 'hated'. If we start sucking like we have in the past, then we won't be seeing many jerseys. I think that we gained a ton of fans (bandwagonners?) in the WCE era - and we've only gotten better.

Personally, I don't buy any of this 'most hated' bullshit. Like others have said, it's a media theme, and the people that buy into mass media will believe anything that they're told.
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby Cookie La Rue » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Cornuck wrote:Personally, I don't buy any of this 'most hated' bullshit. Like others have said, it's a media theme, and the people that buy into mass media will believe anything that they're told.

Bingo again buddy.
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby mathonwy » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:44 pm

Cornuck wrote:Personally, I don't buy any of this 'most hated' bullshit. Like others have said, it's a media theme, and the people that buy into mass media will believe anything that they're told.


Right now, it doesn't matter what the Canucks do or don't do.

The "Most Hated Team in Hockey" PR campaign has taken a life of its own and the only way to stop it is for the Nucks to become irrelevant again. When the Nucks start sucking it like Calgary does, nobody will give a damn about whether they hate the Canucks except for the traditional hockey rivals.

But right now, it's full hate ahead and it's actually really good for everyone because it hits home at so many levels. It makes me want to defend our players and it makes me want to defend our city. Two pretty powerful emotions to feel. I would hazard a guess that you get a lot of those types of feelings with ex-BC'ers. What's also kind of cool is since sports is pretty much the most real reality show on TV, this "most hated" mentality is also borderline reality.

And the media have absolutely glommed on it because like I said above, this hasn't happened before at this type of level in the NHL for a long time. I don't blame the media either because this type of exposure is the best type.

To be hated because you're the best. Fucking ... enjoy it and embrace it because it doesn't happen very often.

An interesting point I just remembered... I think Ron Maclean is picking to be on Vancouver's side. Last time the Canucks were a topic on CBC, I recall him working pretty hard to defend them (I can't remember the topic).
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby Cookie La Rue » Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:54 pm

Hey mat, i agree of most of it but what really disturbs me is that the hate thing is exploited way to much by mass media.
Hate is a kind of nature between rivals and i don't want to get that "ridiculously" overblown.
I guess the mass media is the real problem, not only for hockey...

ps: and also the thing about "whining, yapping or diving" causing this artificial hate too, there's not much difference between the Canucks or any other team, just saying because some people on the GDT cruzifying their own team for this.
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby Reefer2 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:00 pm

The team over the past decade also played an exciting brand of hockey, wide open with scoring and D jumping into the rush. Except for a brief period of time where AV played the trap Canucks do play it fun.

So would you rather watch the crap coming out of NJ and the team earlier this year where no one was past the redline???
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby mathonwy » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:01 pm

Cookie La Rue wrote:Hey mat, i agree of most of it but what really disturbs me is that the hate thing is exploited way to much by mass media.
Hate is a kind of nature between rivals and i don't want to get that "ridiculously" overblown.
I guess the mass media is the real problem, not only for hockey...

Absolutely man. Mass media is the biggest driver in today's society when it comes to shaping the opinions of humans.

This hate thing is like a new toy for the media to use. As a blogger or a writer, it's gold and you'd be a fool not to use it.

Don't like all the hate now? Wait till we win the cup. :devil:
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby donlever » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:11 pm

Cookie La Rue wrote: ...just saying because some people on the GDT cruzifying their own team for this.



Cruzifying (sic) may be overstating what is happening (unless your name is Royaldude of course).

What is being said is that guys like Hank and Kes (our leaders and core of the team) should concentrate on playing hockey (their strengths) in lieu of the theatrics.

Fair statement one would think?
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby Cookie La Rue » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:40 pm

donlever wrote:What is being said is that guys like Hank and Kes (our leaders and core of the team) should concentrate on playing hockey (their strengths) in lieu of the theatrics.

Fair statement one would think?

You're right but it's also a fair statement that the theatrics (sic) wasn't really overblown, they played not like they want and therefor they showed some little kind of frustration and doing this stuff which imo wasn't as ugly as somebodies want to make seem it was. Hey but just my opinion.
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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby wafflecombine » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:47 pm

The comment about mass media is right on the money. Journalists are functionally trolls that have evovled and spread to all forms of media. Create controvery=create reaction=create readership=get paid.

We have a passionate fan base so its like poking the sensitive kid at school. You'll know you'll get a reaction. Everyone else watching laughs cause they are to cool kids when deep down they are secretly glad they aren't the ones being targeted.

Tonight we play our game and hockey gods willing tie the series.

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Re: “The Most Hated Team in Hockey” Circle the wagons.

Postby ukcanuck » Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:51 pm

donlever wrote:
Cookie La Rue wrote: ...just saying because some people on the GDT cruzifying their own team for this.



Cruzifying (sic) may be overstating what is happening (unless your name is Royaldude of course).

What is being said is that guys like Hank and Kes (our leaders and core of the team) should concentrate on playing hockey (their strengths) in lieu of the theatrics.

Fair statement one would think?



Time and place for everything I think you are saying and its time for some real spade work, burst a few blisters and work on the callouses rather than the calls. :P
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