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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby ESQ on Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:35 am

Jovocop wrote:I don't think the BIG BAD BRUINS got the message.

I really think Chiarelli and especially Julien made a huge mistake backing Marchand's explanation in this. Shanahan (and the league) found that Marchand was lying when he said he was defending himself. They called him on his horseshit. I don't think anybody was buying that, but by throwing their support behind that nonsense, Shanahan has now said Julien and Chiarelli are liars by proxy.

There is a time and place to back your player, and that was not it. Chara on Pacioretty, you go to the wall. Lucic on Miller, you go to the wall. They knew going in to the phone hearing that 5 games was the max, they should have taken that charity and shut up. But by lobbying (exactly what the accused Vigneault of doing), they put their own integrity at issue and look like fools for it.

I think Marchand is smarter than people give him credit for, he identified the only plausible way for him to weasel out of that situation and sold it hard, but the tape speaks for itself. And by repeating it, Chiarelli and Julien look like either liars or idiots.

Reading between the lines, I bet the Bruins were warned to keep it in line, and I bet Marchand specifically was warned in advance of the game. Like one of the commentators said, the question before this game was who will get ejected and who will get carried out. Everybody could see something like this happening, I just thank god it was the little rat instead of Lucic, who could have inflicted much greater harm had he stayed in.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby mathonwy on Tue Jan 10, 2012 11:41 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck- ... vekDx7vLYF

This honey badger mentality's got to stop. Will someone please think of the kids???
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Hockey Widow on Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:34 pm

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Bruin ... story.html

Both Marchand and Chiarelli fined for their comments. You do see what happened here don't you? Marchand asked for clarification of the type of hit before the season started. He was told if it was a defensive play, where he was bracing and protecting himself from a hit, and it wasn't a clip, it was legal. So that explains why immediately after the play Marchand, Chiarelli and Juliann all went straight to that party line. They knew the only chance they had to defend Marchand was pre-emptive. The other side of that is that they want to eliminate part of Ballard and Hamhuis's game and get a bug in the ear of officials about their hip checking.

Marchand knows what he did and why.

As for the Thornton thing, come on, Thornton attacked Burrows and so his teammates jumped in to his defence. Are you seriously telling me that the Bruins are simply not the best in this type of pack mentality? Thornton is a HW, a goon, a goon I would take on my team mind you but then again I'd take Marchand too.

This is about the pot calling the kettle black. This is about a team that is still sore there was no suspension over the Savard hit. This is a team that pretends to play within the limits and cries about everyone else. This is a team who has successfully whined and lobbied in the past to make sure their players don't get suspended for dirty career ending hits. Looked at how they characterized the Rome hit, a clean hit just a fraction late, a timing play and they lobbied hard after that to make sure he got suspended. The same team that ended Raymond's playoffs, almost ended his career with a cheap boarding play that had intent all over it and yet they got away unpenalized.

And this is about a little punk, who I'd still have on my team, who sees nothing wrong with glove punching Sedin and was surprised Sedin did not retaliate and that he wasn't penalized so he kept doing it. And that makes him a man I guess. Funny how he wouldn't do that to Bieksa isn't it. Hell he wouldn't even do that to Burrows. This is a guy who refuses to see and acknowledge what he did was deliberate and intentional and therefore has no intention of changing his game. Well, I hope he does go out and do it again and I hope the next suspension is 10-15 games, especially in light of the fact he has not called out the league general and Shanny in particular.

The Canucks by the way are also now seeking clarification on the hip check to ensure that the refs don;t decide to start calling all their hip checks as clips. And the Raymond hit, yes it was declared to be totally protective and Raymond does not use this move as part of his repertoire of dangerous hits. Ya, like he, just like Salo, are dirty players.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Per on Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:41 pm

Sticky wrote:Here are a couple of questions for you if you subscribe to the fallacy that it was a hipcheck...

-When was the last time you saw a legal hipcheck where the hitter leads with his head?
-If it is safe to assume that a hipcheck is executed with a hip (or the rear end), which of those was used by Marchand?

Since Marchand is nothing but an ass, it doesn't matter which body part he uses - it can still be considered a hipcheck.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Jovocop on Tue Jan 10, 2012 2:43 pm

Per wrote:
Sticky wrote:Here are a couple of questions for you if you subscribe to the fallacy that it was a hipcheck...

-When was the last time you saw a legal hipcheck where the hitter leads with his head?
-If it is safe to assume that a hipcheck is executed with a hip (or the rear end), which of those was used by Marchand?

Since Marchand is nothing but an ass, it doesn't matter which body part he uses - it can still be considered a hipcheck.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Per on Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:22 pm

mathonwy wrote:http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/suspension-brad-marchand-says-don-t-care-reputation-055301318.html;_ylt=AmRLH2Xxe7CNmTTUMSvekDx7vLYF

This honey badger mentality's got to stop. Will someone please think of the kids???

LOL! :lol:

Love the comment from crazypsycholoser in Nanaimo:
"If Matt Coke and Sean Avery had a baby, it would be Brad Marchand."
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Island Nucklehead on Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:39 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:And this is about a little punk, who I'd still have on my team, who sees nothing wrong with glove punching Sedin and was surprised Sedin did not retaliate and that he wasn't penalized so he kept doing it. And that makes him a man I guess. Funny how he wouldn't do that to Bieksa isn't it. Hell he wouldn't even do that to Burrows. This is a guy who refuses to see and acknowledge what he did was deliberate and intentional and therefore has no intention of changing his game. Well, I hope he does go out and do it again and I hope the next suspension is 10-15 games, especially in light of the fact he has not called out the league general and Shanny in particular.


We have had enough of this type of player on our team, imo. I think he could help us win, but as a fan it's very hard to cheer for players with such destain for the game. Personally, I'm glad Kesler and Burrows cleaned up their act. I'm glad Lapierre is standing up for himself (and his actions) this season. It's a lot easier to cheer for players when they play the game hard, clean, and honestly.

Marchand is a goof. You gotta wonder when Cam Neely will put him in line. If anyone knows the results of dirty, low hits...

As for the next time he does it, I hope it's against a team with a real legit goon. And I hope said goon is on the ice. Because I honestly wouldn't mind a severe injury being inflicted on that little piece of shit.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Jovocop on Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:48 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:We have had enough of this type of player on our team, imo. I think he could help us win, but as a fan it's very hard to cheer for players with such destain for the game. Personally, I'm glad Kesler and Burrows cleaned up their act. I'm glad Lapierre is standing up for himself (and his actions) this season. It's a lot easier to cheer for players when they play the game hard, clean, and honestly.

Marchand is a goof. You gotta wonder when Cam Neely will put him in line. If anyone knows the results of dirty, low hits...

As for the next time he does it, I hope it's against a team with a real legit goon. And I hope said goon is on the ice. Because I honestly wouldn't mind a severe injury being inflicted on that little piece of shit.


No, we don't. The Canucks have a few agitators (Burrows, Kesler, and Lapierre); however, they are not dirty players (You can argue about Burrow's biting incident last playoffs as dirty but none of those guys would intentionally hurt people with dirty cheap shots).

Yes, I would definitely be very mad if that dirty rat ends up being a Canuck.

Be careful, that dirty little rat might treat your statement above as a threat.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Larry Goodenough on Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:55 pm

Ulf Marchand?
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Listercat on Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:05 pm

Marchand has hockey talent. I don't know if he played this way in Junior or if his "style" has come to being in the B's organization.

I would lose a lot of respect for MG if he were to obtain the little thug for the Canucks. Comparing Burrows, Kesler and Lappy to Marchand is laughable. Ya I've seen Kes & Burr use the stick but pretty much only in retaliation. Mouthy yes although much less than previously. I have yet to see any of our group resort to the tactics Marchand has used. Even if you take the Burrows biting or hair pulling into account these come nowhere near actions that could end another players career. Matt Cooke was the only Canuck player I can recall who played like Marchand.

Marchand wants to play with the big boys he has to learn that he is going to get hit. Being a smaller guy with a lower centre of gravity can work for you without doing what he did to Sami. Sami Isn't even what I would call a hitter so Marchand's "defense" is nothing but a crock of crap.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Strangelove on Tue Jan 10, 2012 10:37 pm

Per wrote:
Sticky wrote:Here are a couple of questions for you if you subscribe to the fallacy that it was a hipcheck...

-When was the last time you saw a legal hipcheck where the hitter leads with his head?
-If it is safe to assume that a hipcheck is executed with a hip (or the rear end), which of those was used by Marchand?

Since Marchand is nothing but an ass, it doesn't matter which body part he uses - it can still be considered a hipcheck.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby mathonwy on Sun Jan 22, 2012 1:52 pm

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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby tantalum on Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:05 pm

Yes Marchand played that way in junior. His team mates didn't particularly like him for it.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Potatoe1 on Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:10 pm

mathonwy wrote:http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=385800

Ference gets 3 games for boarding McDonagh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urfv3RYk8GQ

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/consol ... L|NHL|home

Not malicious but definitely reckless.



2 games for the hit and 1 game for playing on a team the league has basically had it with.
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Re: The BS Suspension Thread

Postby Orcasfan on Sun Jan 22, 2012 2:15 pm

I would love to see someone do the research (not me!) and post a list of all the Boston players with an up-to-date account of all their suspensions and fines! I think we would have hard evidence about just how dirty that team is. As far as Julien is concerned, the guy really is "stupid" if he continues to defend such blatant dirty play by his team. :mad:
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