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Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:57 pm
by Rumsfeld
Multiple media sources, both eastern and western, stated that Gillis dropped his offer to two 2nds on deadline day and when that was refused, he lowballed it to a single 2nd in an effort to get Lou da fok outta here and end the drama.

Reporters brought this up at the press conference after and Gillis didn't deny it. He admitted to basically giving Lou away because he felt they owed it to Roberto to end his suffering. :roll: The Leafs would only have been picking up a fraction of his '13 salary if they'd picked him up then, so I kind of doubt Nonis is going to look like an idiot by aquiring him now, AFTER the wost game 7 meltdown in hockey history (still laffing).

I doubt he will go for substantially more in the summer because teams already know how low Gillis was ready to go. Florida seems like a good fit and they do have a surplus of young talent so I guess there is some reason to be more optimistic. Like I said, 2nd and a good prospect and I'd be thrilled.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:12 pm
by ukcanuck
coco_canuck wrote:
Strangelove wrote: I still think a package like Matthias and Petrovic can be had.
Hope you're right, that would be a great deal for us.

I sort of see it the same way Rummy does, the Canucks were willing to move him for two 2nds at the deadline so teams probably aren't offering a whole lot more at this point unless, like Topper says, Gillis can create some sort of bidding war with a team like the Flyers.

The ace in the hole for Gillis would be to take back a contract, say Upshall and his $3.5M contract for next two years, and buy-out that deal in order to get back something more significant in return. But if what HW and others say is right, that Aquaman isn't keen on buy-outs, then we shouldn't really expect that to happen.
What if its Matthias @ 2 year(s), $1,703,250RFA
Plus Petrovic @ 3 year(s), $2,475,000 ยป RFA
And upshall @ 4 year(s), $14,000,000UFA
So that's 850,000
850.000
3.500,000
5.200,000

For luongo's 5.5 cap hit that's a wash and we have three bodies...

Upshall might make a good fourth line winger ...

I don't know how he got a 14 million dollar contract though... He basically had one good year in 07 ...

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:13 pm
by Strangelove
coco_canuck wrote: Canucks were willing to move him for two 2nds at the deadline so teams probably aren't offering a whole lot more at this point
Luongo is going to have much more value in the off-season than at the deadline

(unless there had happened to be a contender with a very-suspect/injured #1).

With that contract, we're not talking about a rental.

This is a marriage and marriages tend to happen in the summer. :P
coco_canuck wrote: But if what HW and others say is right... Aquaman isn't keen on buy-outs
Pretty sure HW and others were just running with an obscure quote + opinion of an idiot hockey writer.

It defies logic to believe that Aquaman

....with all that we know about him from past moves...

wouldn't take advantage of this glorious opportunity for a richer team to take advantage of this opportunity.

I'll bet the real story is they have no intention to waste the opportunity by buying out Ballard/Booth.

The rich teams WILL be making this kind of trade.

And your Vancouver Canucks WILL be one of them.

No need to do it in a Luongo trade though.

In my ever so humble opinion of course. :D

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:19 pm
by Rumsfeld
Yeah I see no reason why Aquilini, given his history so far, would be so adverse to buyouts.

BTW, you rat packsters have derailed the living shit out of this thread, and in so doing you've most likely soiled the britches of three or four lurkers with a combined history of 68 posts.

Hope you're happy and reported.

Um, Calgary sucks.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:22 pm
by Strangelove
Yeah, how the hell did we end up on this subject on this thread? :lol:

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:25 pm
by coco_canuck
Strangelove wrote:Yeah, how the hell did we end up on this subject on this thread? :lol:
:lol:

Damn good discussion though.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:26 pm
by ukcanuck
How does anyone complain about actual canuck hockey talk on a thread Intended for laughing at Calgary ?

It's kind of what the complainers want ain't it?

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:31 pm
by Topper
Hey mongoloid farmers, stay on topic.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:33 pm
by Rumsfeld
Topper wrote:Hey mongoloid farmers, stay on topic.
Image

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:36 pm
by coco_canuck
Rumsfeld wrote: Image
Sort of looks like Dutter.

Maybe the Flames will use a 1st rd pick on...it.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:02 pm
by Hockey Widow
Rumsfeld wrote:
Topper wrote:Hey mongoloid farmers, stay on topic.
Image

I never gave you permission to post my pic! :evil: WTF

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:29 pm
by Blob Mckenzie
coco_canuck wrote:
Rumsfeld wrote: Image
Sort of looks like Dutter.

Maybe the Flames will use a 1st rd pick on...it.

:lol: .... probably one of Pacific Blue's conquests from the Ivanhoe or the Dufferin.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 11:56 pm
by okcanuck
WTF, While on holidays, I come on here for my monthly dose of flat-lander, short-bus antidotes and all I get is Lou this and Gillis that.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:52 am
by Eddy Punch Clock
OK, back on track:
This is the problem, what is the point in trading for a goalie like Bernier when we know we are not going to be competing for the next season or two. He gets hung out to dry on a nightly basis and thinks "I'm off" when it gets to FA time.
It would take the best GM and coach money could buy..... and a miracle..... to make Calgary competitive in the next five years let alone two.

Re: From Bountiful to Ponoka

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:54 am
by ukcanuck
I didn't think this thread was for constructive criticism of the Calgary flames. I thought this was where we pointed out the backward inbred nature of Albertans... With a hockey perspective of course...