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Reid Sent Down to the Moose

Postby Soapy » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:34 pm

from the Canucks site:

The following players have been assigned to the Manitoba Moose:


Bouck, Tyler Right Wing Manitoba Moose AHL
Brown, Mike Right Wing Manitoba Moose AHL
Edler, Alexander Defence Manitoba Moose AHL
Goren, Lee Right Wing Manitoba Moose AHL
MacIntyre, Drew Goaltender Manitoba Moose AHL
McIver, Nathan Defence Manitoba Moose AHL
Reid, Brandon Centre Manitoba Moose AHL
Schultz, Jesse Right Wing Manitoba Moose AHL
Tremblay, Yannick Defence Manitoba Moose AHL


The following player has been assigned to his junior team:

Grabner, Michael Right Wing Spokane Chiefs WHL
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Postby MarkMM » Thu Sep 28, 2006 2:50 pm

...and Hansen wasn't, interesting.
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Postby krutov » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:01 pm

Is there a list of who is left in camp anywhere ?
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Postby gobi » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:09 pm

MarkMM wrote:...and Hansen wasn't, interesting.


And also Coloumbe.
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Postby jchockey » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:36 pm

Dammit, I wanted Reid to make the squad...
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Postby jchockey » Thu Sep 28, 2006 3:47 pm

krutov wrote:Is there a list of who is left in camp anywhere ?


1 Roberto Luongo G
2 Mattias Ohlund D
3 Kevin Bieksa D
4 Luc Bourdon D
5 Lukas Krajicek D
6 Sami Salo D
7 Brendan Morrison C
8 Willie Mitchell D
9 Taylor Pyatt LW/RW
14 Alexandre Burrows LW/RW
15 Rick Rypien C
16 Trevor Linden C/RW
18 Rory Fitzpatrick D
19 Markus Naslund LW/RW
20 Ryan Kesler C
22 Daniel Sedin LW
24 Matt Cooke LW/RW
26 Tommi Santala C
30 Wade Flaherty G
32 Marc Chouinard C
33 Henrik Sedin C
36 Josh Green F
38 Jan Bulis LW/RW
59 Jannik Hansen LW/RW
64 Patrick Coulombe D
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Postby ClamRussel » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:41 pm

Wow

Nonis+Vigneault=outright liars

I only say this in regards to how 'one way/two way contracts' aren't going to be a factor when it comes to deciding who stays & goes. Of course we all knew they would be, and always are...but then why come out and say the 'best men for the job' will win the spots, blah blah. Create a false sense of hope to make camp more competitive?

Reid has been by FAR one of the top standout players in camp thus far....and its not like he's exactly had Naslund as a linemate either....he's created opportunities every game he's played, skated circles around players out there, worked his ass off & created opportunities. With the LAME-ASS showing this team has provided offensively so far, how can one of our TOP offensive sparkplugs be demoted just like that? Surely he deserved another game or two to show what he could do. So much for the "new" NHL with players like Gionta being able to succeed w/o their height holding them back. That was how Reid was sold wasn't it? *

Another small player, Rypien has also been a standout....but for different reasons....he stays and he's HURT right now. Don't get me wrong I like Rypien alot....but he isn't going to help offensively whatsoever....in fact, players who produce as little as Rypien can actually hurt us a bit through lack of production. Offence has been at a premium for the nUx so far....and it might just get worse....yet we keep a plugger over a strong 2-way player?

Chouinard=brutal so far....not so hot on faceoffs....brings very little to the table offensively. Are we playing the trap this year?

Santala=complete non-factor & uninspired so far. Brings NOTHING to the table offensively that I can see. But wait, he's got some size...

This is shit people.

Message, how you perform means very little when mgmt has already made up their mind.....just goes to show HOW bad Schultz has been because w/ Balej & King bolting the spot w/ the Sedins was HIS to loose. Also, just goes to show how GOOD Coulombe has been....downright spectacular.

What a shock that all the one way contracts are here....and all the players demoted are on two ways.....ahhh, it must be a coincidence thats all.
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Postby westvandal » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:42 pm

Did we draft Coulombe?




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Postby ClamRussel » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:44 pm

He's currently not signed and was undrafted.

A training camp tryout contract is what he landed as far as I know.
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Postby westvandal » Thu Sep 28, 2006 4:49 pm

ClamRussel wrote:Wow

Nonis+Vigneault=outright liars

I only say this in regards to how 'one way/two way contracts' aren't going to be a factor when it comes to deciding who stays & goes. Of course we all knew they would be, and always are...but then why come out and say the 'best men for the job' will win the spots, blah blah. Create a false sense of hope to make camp more competitive?

Reid has been by FAR one of the top standout players in camp thus far....and its not like he's exactly had Naslund as a linemate either....he's created opportunities every game he's played, skated circles around players out there, worked his ass off & created opportunities. With the LAME-ASS showing this team has provided offensively so far, how can one of our TOP offensive sparkplugs be demoted just like that? Surely he deserved another game or two to show what he could do. So much for the "new" NHL with players like Gionta being able to succeed w/o their height holding them back. That was how Reid was sold wasn't it? *

Another small player, Rypien has also been a standout....but for different reasons....he stays and he's HURT right now. Don't get me wrong I like Rypien alot....but he isn't going to help offensively whatsoever....in fact, players who produce as little as Rypien can actually hurt us a bit through lack of production. Offence has been at a premium for the nUx so far....and it might just get worse....yet we keep a plugger over a strong 2-way player?

Chouinard=brutal so far....not so hot on faceoffs....brings very little to the table offensively. Are we playing the trap this year?

Santala=complete non-factor & uninspired so far. Brings NOTHING to the table offensively that I can see. But wait, he's got some size...

This is shit people.

Message, how you perform means very little when mgmt has already made up their mind.....just goes to show HOW bad Schultz has been because w/ Balej & King bolting the spot w/ the Sedins was HIS to loose. Also, just goes to show how GOOD Coulombe has been....downright spectacular.

What a shock that all the one way contracts are here....and all the players demoted are on two ways.....ahhh, it must be a coincidence thats all.



Choiunard and Santala have been unimpressive. I'm dissapointed with Reid being sent down too....I would think he's first call-up though.

I'm frustrated...last year the team was talented but had no work ethic. Now...no talent and STILL no work ethic.

HOW THE F$^$^ CAN CHIOUNARD PLAY LIKE THAT WHEN HE HAS TO PROVE HE WAS A GOOD SIGNING FOR 1.1 MILLION???????????????????????

its still pre-season though.

I have a bit of hope left ;)
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Postby MarkMM » Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:59 pm

ClamRussel wrote:Wow

Nonis+Vigneault=outright liars

I only say this in regards to how 'one way/two way contracts' aren't going to be a factor when it comes to deciding who stays & goes. Of course we all knew they would be, and always are...but then why come out and say the 'best men for the job' will win the spots, blah blah. Create a false sense of hope to make camp more competitive?

Reid has been by FAR one of the top standout players in camp thus far....and its not like he's exactly had Naslund as a linemate either....he's created opportunities every game he's played, skated circles around players out there, worked his ass off & created opportunities. With the LAME-ASS showing this team has provided offensively so far, how can one of our TOP offensive sparkplugs be demoted just like that? Surely he deserved another game or two to show what he could do. So much for the "new" NHL with players like Gionta being able to succeed w/o their height holding them back. That was how Reid was sold wasn't it? *

Another small player, Rypien has also been a standout....but for different reasons....he stays and he's HURT right now. Don't get me wrong I like Rypien alot....but he isn't going to help offensively whatsoever....in fact, players who produce as little as Rypien can actually hurt us a bit through lack of production. Offence has been at a premium for the nUx so far....and it might just get worse....yet we keep a plugger over a strong 2-way player?

Chouinard=brutal so far....not so hot on faceoffs....brings very little to the table offensively. Are we playing the trap this year?

Santala=complete non-factor & uninspired so far. Brings NOTHING to the table offensively that I can see. But wait, he's got some size...

This is shit people.

Message, how you perform means very little when mgmt has already made up their mind.....just goes to show HOW bad Schultz has been because w/ Balej & King bolting the spot w/ the Sedins was HIS to loose. Also, just goes to show how GOOD Coulombe has been....downright spectacular.

What a shock that all the one way contracts are here....and all the players demoted are on two ways.....ahhh, it must be a coincidence thats all.


I'm thinking two things on this, either they're still going to trade someone from the one-way list and then bring back one of these guys, or as good as Reid was, he didn't fit into the team's plans. Even with the glut of one-ways, they still kept guys like Hansen and Santala up, so maybe they're concerned with Reid's finishing abilities? Santala has been really good on the face-offs, and would be the prime suspect to replace Chouinard if we could trade him, maybe we're keeping Chouinard on the team to showcase him for a trade (that could apply to anyone else still up, for that matter).
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Postby westvandal » Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:46 pm

Sorry about the Cloube post, didn't realize it was already posted.
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Postby tantalum » Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:01 pm

everything I've read is that Reid hasn't been impressive at all. He makes a nice rush or two but ultimately does nothing. It's pretty much time to simply admit that Reid is not NHL ready. It's no longer "oh Crow didn't like him". It's two completely different coaching staffs that feel he's not ready. He didn't even stick to the last cuts so they really don't feel he's all that close.

Reid failed to grab a position. He didn't outplay anyone enough to earn a top 6 spot and frankly he is not suited for the bottom 6 and never will be. People forget that a guy like Reid has to outplay someone not only in camp but show more than what a veteran has historically shown (i.e. Chouinard has been a fulltime NHL player for quite some time and plays a role that Reid can not).. He didn't do that. Not even close. And it was a foregone conclusion when camp started.

First call up? nah. The guys still around are the ones that will receive the early season call ups if they are necessary. Unless Reid lights it up then maybe but I think you'd see them shuffle around Kesler to the top 6 for an injury there and use the typical bottom 6 guys in the bottom 6.

not everything is a conspiracy to keep the little guy down. Holden wasn't mishandled. He wasn't good enough. Druken wasn't mishandled. He wasn't good enough. And Reid isn't good enough.

i also hope bouck getting cut can stop people believing that he is an NHL player as well.
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Postby Farhan Lalji » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:48 pm

Few Thoughts:

1) I'm a little mixed about Bourdon staying here. On one hand, I'm GLAD that he's staying since I'd hate to see him turn into Josh Holden (i.e. tries way too hard to make the team at training camp, overthinks, and constantly chokes). In a way, I think its good that Veenyo is letting him stay, so that he just relaxes...and gets back to playing like he was.

On the other hand, I'm not sure how many 19 year old defensemen have been successful....or have gone on to be successful. The worst thing a coach can do, is rush someone. The Canucks were patient with Mattias Ohlund, and it paid dividends. Dion Phaneuf didn't enter the NHL until he was 21.


2) I'm disappointed that Bouck didn't make it. The guy came to camp in the best shape. His hustle and enthusiasm was unparalleled. I thought he deserved a chance to stay. These are the types of guys that ALL teams need.
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Postby Linden Is God » Thu Sep 28, 2006 8:52 pm

Rypien wasn't sent down because he's injured. You can't send down and injured player. I know it's a dumb rule but Montreal (Grabovski, Cote) and the Leafs (Bell, Kronwall) are in the same situation. Unfortunately, I read somewhere that those guys count as a cap hit. I don't understand why they would be because they're injured, but I did read this in an article talking about the Leafs getting hit like that.
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