ververgaert wrote:Trevor was a stand up guy who had brought our team to the brink of the holy grail. He with Pavel was the reason the Canucks became so popularin this town ! They wern't selling out too many games before those two came along. Plus the charity work, we had never seen someone so commited in this town like him(Tiger was close). Not to mention the ladies didn't find him to hard on the eyes( my girlfriend would see him and then trow bricks at me!). I wasn't too surprised with the reaction! The trade yes, but the reaction no.
I hate Messier for his help in dismantling the Canucks. He broke up a fun team to watch in a short period of time.
I don't agree with you one little bit here. It was long overdue for that core of players to get a one-way ticket outta town. Have you forgotten the fact that the season before this fun team to watch missed the playoffs? And they got off to a horrible start when the dismantling of that core occurred. That group of players was almost exactly like our group of players last season. A group of guys on long-term deals that felt they had nothing to prove and became complacent. I hate Messier as much as any Canuck fan. But the Linden-McLean core had to go.
JamesOwnzSam11 wrote:I'm not to fond of the love shack that Linden has in this city either I remember people crying when he was traded, just crying.
JamesOwnzSam11 wrote:In your guys opinions of course.
I like the Canucks I do, I wouldn't say i'm a diehard but I cheer for the Canucks because I've lived in Vancouver almost all my life ( I won't state what my first team was but it isn't the Rangers or Oilers)
Anyways I always get sh*t from friends for having this Mark Messier poster ( He is my favorite player after all..) saying I can't be a Canucks fan if I like him.
What do you guys think?
The ROCKET MATH looks good now but at the time I stll had a bit of faith. I would have rather watched that group go down in flames & re-build than have to watch the Messier-Keenan scramble to scrape up a team that hated its captain drama. As for missing the play offs...lots of fun teams miss the playoffs..even more play only 3 or less playoff games & don't explode.
I'm not to fond of the love shack that Linden has in this city either I remember people crying when he was traded, just crying.
Everyone loved Gino, Trevor, Kirk, etc. but by the time Keenan got to them, the team was admittedly stale. How Keenan broke up the team was probably a bigger issue to many fans in comparison to why.
randymeeks wrote:Everyone loved Gino, Trevor, Kirk, etc. but by the time Keenan got to them, the team was admittedly stale. How Keenan broke up the team was probably a bigger issue to many fans in comparison to why.
By the time Keenan broke up the core, I personally didn't care how Keenan broke it up as long as he broke it up. I wasn't satisified with a team that sleepwalked their way through the regular season, finished .500, and only worked as hard as it had to to make the playoffs. Sure, we had the great run in 1994, but from the regular season of the Cup run all the way until 2000 or so, it wasn't easy to be a Canuck fan most of the time.
randymeeks wrote:I didn't like Messier and Keenan, either but the country club atmosphere at the time drove me nuts. After the 94 Cup run, the reaction of the Kirk McLeans and Trevor Lindens after they played like crap during a regular season game reminded me of the same way the Todd Bertuzzis and Markus Naslunds of last season were reacting after a poor effort last season. No sense of urgency and they always seemed to have a who-cares-as-long-as-we-make-the-playoffs-attitude. It got to the point where for a couple seasons, I had a hard time watching the Canucks on t.v. back in the late 90s. It was just too painful to watch a bunch of underachieving millionaires go through the motions.
Yeesh, I almost hate going on this rant. It just brings back way too many painful memories for me as a fan. I just hope that when this new core comes back that they don't waltz into town with the same no sense of urgency attitude that last year's team developed.
I don't think you have to worry about that this coming season. They may not be as talented, but guys like Bertuzzi have moved on and the team's chemistry is more of a lunch-bucket one. We'll see how it goes.
randymeeks wrote:I don't think you have to worry about that this coming season. They may not be as talented, but guys like Bertuzzi have moved on and the team's chemistry is more of a lunch-bucket one. We'll see how it goes.
I sure hope that that's the case. I just want to be proud to be a fan of my team as a fan. Last season was horribly painful to watch.
It's funny. I was thinking of that Canucks team after '94. Lot of things happened....Bure became a bigger prima donna....Mogilny joined the team and the chemistry changed even more....Jeff Brown caused a lot of problems in the locker room. That team just went downhill for a while after that...
randymeeks wrote:I know Orca Bay was probably pulling the reigns on Pat Quinn to a degree but I just couldn't understand why he was refusing to change the dynamics of the team even after they missed the playoffs. If I recall correctly, the only two real changes they made to the team after they made the playoffs was signing Messier and Grant Ledyard. I knew right there that was really just sticking with the status quo, which in my mind, should never even had been an option. Everyone seemed to be shocked when they went on the 10 game losing streak the next season after signing Messier before they finally obliterated the core. I sure wasn't. Pat Quinn paid for it with his job and rightfully so.