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Re: Canucks News N Notes 2020-2021

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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:31 pm
Strangelove wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:27 pm
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:23 pm Fixed for truth Doc107
Truth is you're out to liquid lunch.

Just before Covid, Bill Daly announced the 2020-21 salary cap would be between $84M and $88M.

You're sitting there on a pile of your own excrement trying to justify the stench of dat dere.
Lol it doesn’t excuse the horrific contracts sucking up the tens of millions of dollars.
UMMMMMMM let's recap, HW said:

"Who knows how much more luck Benning would have had in moving contracts if COVID had not hit? I think he might have had more opportunity"

You replied to her with:

"COVID had fuck all to do with it"

Conclusion: You're a gomer.

Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:31 pm ‘Well Bill Daly will get us out of this mess’ lmfao
What the fuck are you talking about Diaper Boy?

Every GM spending to the cap rightfully figured they'd have an extra $5M to spend... and extra room to maneuver... cuz revenues.

Then came Covid.
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dangler wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:32 pm
Strangelove wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:27 pm
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:23 pm Fixed for truth Doc107
Truth is you're out to liquid lunch.

Just before Covid, Bill Daly announced the 2020-21 salary cap would be between $84M and $88M.

You're sitting there on a pile of your own excrement trying to justify the stench of dat dere.
sounds like someone has a full diaper
No it sounds like someone isn’t stupid enough to constantly Bob their domes at the company party line. ‘Duh the manager is never wrong’ :lol:
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Strangelove wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:38 pm I’m a fat bald alcoholic that lives in Abbotsford and I love some Benning semen
Had to fix again :lol:
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Micky wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:37 pm
dangler wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:19 pm
Hockey Widow wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:00 pm Its a harsh reality. Who knows how much more luck Benning would have had in moving contracts if COVID had not hit? I think he might have had more opportunity. But having said that this is the reality. The bad contracts have hurt any chance of signing some FA. But, for whatever reason, whether its Benning himself or a mandate fro ownership, Benning has not gone crazy and traded picks or good prospects to try and move contracts.

If we have to eat contracts this year lets hope we get a few kids into the lineup to give them some experience. Same for those that have two years left on term. Patience is indeed the key for the next two seasons. Being patient for two more seasons isn't closing any windows. Somewhere along the line he still maybe able to move a contract or two or make a good hockey trade. I just don't want to see reactionary panic set in and see him trading picks and assets.

I like that he he moved on from Markstrom at that cost, same with Tanev. TT I am on the fence because I think we could have absorbed that one.

Breathe.....
It's not like they have to worry about selling tickets so why not take a step back and let the shitty contracts expire, don't sign any more shitty contracts, and give the prospects some NHL time in the meantime.
I think Jake was going to be their Toffoli plan B once they qualified him. And if the season goes completely sideways they should be able to trade him for a decent asset.
I didn't mind the cost of the lost UFA's, but the term just didn't make sense for the Canucks on any of them.
Wow! I would have thought the playoffs would have meant everything after what we just witnessed in the summer.
I'm not aboard with throwing away a season. What's next; Tanking and other derivatives of the essence of the word?
Three recent Calder nominees and Bo + JT, wouldn't know how to.
It could still work out Mick ,but if it doesn't, this is the best year for temporary regression to happen
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Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:40 pm
Strangelove wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:38 pm I’m a fat bald alcoholic that lives in Abbotsford and I love some Benning semen
Had to fix again :lol:
Get a grip man
your act is getting really old quick
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Not that I want to add to the Urine Crew’s bladder pressure, but I should remind everyone that the 4m I said Benning has left is only there if Ferland goes on LTIR. If Ferland doesn’t plan to go on LTIR then Benning has about $500,000. Benning might already be done signing UFAs earning more than a million. So hockey trades might be the only way to improve the defence.
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dangler wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:42 pm
Doyle Hargraves wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:40 pm
Strangelove wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:38 pm I’m a fat bald alcoholic that lives in Abbotsford and I love some Benning semen
Had to fix again :lol:
Get a grip man
your act is getting really old quick
True, and now the Gomer is doing it.

If the Gomer can do it, that should've been enough to snap you out of it Blob.
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Meds wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:56 am
Curmudgeon wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:14 am Benning had said for a while they had to upgrade the defense and it wasn't going to be Hughes, Edler, or Myers so how can it be a surprise when Tanev and Stecher are out? Plus it sounds like he didn't have much contact with their agents over a period of time, the writing was clearly on the wall, but the mistake he made with those two was circling back to them after OEL and a couple other things fell apart and that's a poor look.

My issue is the lack of preparation. They knew they needed to move on from Tanev, Stecher, and also ultimately Edler and haven't prepared. Since Benning took over they've had 12 picks in the first two rounds and only selected defensemen three times despite the glaring need and only one of those were right side. Then this past year he gave up assets to get two more forwards in Miller and Toffoli when they should have used some of those to target a RHD instead of, say, Toffoli. Both good players and good additions but were they both necessary at the expense of the defense? Anyway, dead horse and all. lol
Well said. This is probably a fairly accurate take on why most people are feeling a bit less than impressed with Benning & Co. right now.

I wonder if they got derailed by the sudden availability of OEL on the market, took their shot, missed, and because they didn't think they were going to miss they let a few other balls drop.

Either way, what you say about stated needs and the appearance of unpreparedness rings true.
I don't think the OEL deal impacted Tanev or Stecher, they were gone, but I wouldn't be surprised if other players may have slipped by them.

Now there are comments floating around about an internal cap for this offseason after only recently the team stating they were going to be a cap team and then going all in on the short and long term OEL big ticket. It doesn't add up and only substantiates the appearances of having no plan and not being prepared. Social media, the local sports media, and the fan boards are going to be a complete shitshow for the next while and won't be for the faint of heart if you're looking for any objectivity or big picture clarity but I have to admit the optics are pretty embarrassing.

Hopefully this doesn't negatively impact Pettersson and/or Hughes and their looming extensions.
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Cherry Picker wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:45 pm Not that I want to add to the Urine Crew’s bladder pressure, but I should remind everyone that the 4m I said Benning has left is only there if Ferland goes on LTIR. If Ferland doesn’t plan to go on LTIR then Benning has about $500,000. Benning might already be done signing UFAs earning more than a million. So hockey trades might be the only way to improve the defence.
As ESQ pointed out, your numbers are wrong.

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If you include Ferland, they already are a cap team.
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Curmudgeon wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:47 pm Now there are comments floating around about an internal cap for this offseason after only recently the team stating they were going to be a cap team and then going all in on the short and long term OEL big ticket. It doesn't add up and only substantiates the appearances of having no plan and not being prepared.
It doesn't add up because: The "comments floating around about an internal cap" are 100% Grade A bullshit.

Canucks management does have a plan, Canucks management was fully prepared.
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Cherry Picker wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:49 pm If you include Ferland, they already are a cap team.
Dead wrong.
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Lol, Curm suggesting they won't spend to the cap, and CP saying they're already at the cap.

Both wrong.
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Cherry Picker wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:49 pm If you include Ferland, they already are a cap team.
With 3 D men good enough to play in the league :lol:
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Strangelove wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:48 pm
Cherry Picker wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:45 pm Not that I want to add to the Urine Crew’s bladder pressure, but I should remind everyone that the 4m I said Benning has left is only there if Ferland goes on LTIR. If Ferland doesn’t plan to go on LTIR then Benning has about $500,000. Benning might already be done signing UFAs earning more than a million. So hockey trades might be the only way to improve the defence.
As ESQ pointed out, your numbers are wrong.

Look into dat dere, I'm logging off for the big Turkey Party today...
My bad, with Ferland they have 4.5m

Opps edit that. Have to subtract 1.7m rookie bonuses, so they have about 2.8m
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