Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

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Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

Post by UWSaint » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:04 am

Cherry Picker wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 7:18 am
Two spots, 12th and13th forwards, for four players that have to clear waivers.
Motte, Schaller, Goldobin, Eriksson

Eriksson over Goldobin in the first games. He scored, Goldobin nothing that stood out. Probably see Motte and Schaller tonight vrs Edmonton.
Leivo should be on that list.

Motte and Goldobin won't have to clear waivers. They could be traded for a pick or B/C prospect.

If Gaudette makes the team, add one more to cut/trade. (I think they start him in Utica and I think he tears it up there). Canucks could also keep 14 forwards, but I think the preference will be 8 D.
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Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

Post by The Brown Wizard » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:11 am

UWSaint wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:04 am
Leivo should be on that list.
:lol:

Saint hates Leivo like the dude and Gillis
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Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

Post by UWSaint » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:24 am

The Brown Wizard wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:11 am
UWSaint wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:04 am
Leivo should be on that list.
:lol:

Saint hates Leivo like the dude and Gillis
I don't hate Leivo. It is just that he is the most dangerous kind of not-all-that-good player. The one whose mistakes are less perceptible (but just as meaningful to the objective of scoring goals and keeping pucks out of your net) and seduces with the occasional good play.

I will add that he is very much a Canucks circa 2015 move. This team has moved beyond that.
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Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

Post by The Brown Wizard » Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:54 am

UWSaint wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:24 am
The Brown Wizard wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:11 am
UWSaint wrote:
Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:04 am
Leivo should be on that list.
:lol:

Saint hates Leivo like the dude and Gillis
I don't hate Leivo. It is just that he is the most dangerous kind of not-all-that-good player. The one whose mistakes are less perceptible (but just as meaningful to the objective of scoring goals and keeping pucks out of your net) and seduces with the occasional good play.

I will add that he is very much a Canucks circa 2015 move. This team has moved beyond that.
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Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

Post by Puck » Tue Sep 17, 2019 9:08 am

    Chef Boi RD wrote:
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    I thought Lind looked decent.
    He was noticeable on Sunday, too. I stopped in for the scrimmage and the practice session that followed. Sautner, Lind and Perron were the bright spots for the young guys.

    At $5/person, we got a steal of a deal. Probably better value than the exhibition game and likely more entertaining. It's impressive watching these guys battle for spots at ice level.

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    Post by micky107 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:13 am

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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by Chef Boi RD » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:28 am

    The Brown Wizard wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:11 am
    UWSaint wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:04 am
    Leivo should be on that list.
    :lol:

    Saint hates Leivo like the dude and Gillis
    Leivo is a bit of J Chill Garrison throwback, Blobbee’s Boi. I don’t think Saint is out of order here.
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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by Hank » Tue Sep 17, 2019 10:51 am

    UWSaint wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:24 am
    The Brown Wizard wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:11 am
    UWSaint wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 8:04 am
    Leivo should be on that list.
    :lol:

    Saint hates Leivo like the dude and Gillis
    I don't hate Leivo. It is just that he is the most dangerous kind of not-all-that-good player. The one whose mistakes are less perceptible (but just as meaningful to the objective of scoring goals and keeping pucks out of your net) and seduces with the occasional good play.

    I will add that he is very much a Canucks circa 2015 move. This team has moved beyond that.
    Man, that is exactly what I saw from Leivo last night.

    Nothing great but nothing overly egregious either. He made plenty of mistakes from not passing, to (many) bad passes both in the offensive and neutral zones, to losing puck battles and giving the other team chances to turn it over but being too slow to get right back into the play.

    He does these things a lot, even going back to most of last season.

    For a big dude, he is regularly being outmuscled due to being wrongly positioned. He'll wow you with a few good offensive plays here and there, but the 5 or 6 not so good plays may not be perceptible to everyone.

    "The most dangerous kind of not-all-that-good player". Bang on, UW.
    Try to focus on THIS year...

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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by micky107 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:24 am

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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by SKYO » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:28 am

    It's just early preseason folks, Leivo shaking off the rust.

    In the spring...
    Nine goals and 15 points in 35 games doesn’t jump out at you, but Leivo’s underlying numbers for the Canucks push him to the forefront as the team’s best option at left wing. His 1.16 goals per hour at five-on-five is best among forwards on the Canucks, and he’s shown some nifty playmaking skills as well.
    Leivo — acquired from the Toronto Maple Leaves for Michael Carcone back in December – has scored 10 goals in 44 games with the Canucks. That puts him right near a 20-goal pace.
    Leivo would be a helluva 4th liner to add some scoring prowess on that line and can play on the 3rd line even 2nd line if need be, quality depth imo, LW/RW. Also had good CF% 54.4
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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by micky107 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:53 am

    SKYO wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:28 am
    It's just early preseason folks, Leivo shaking off the rust.

    In the spring...
    Nine goals and 15 points in 35 games doesn’t jump out at you, but Leivo’s underlying numbers for the Canucks push him to the forefront as the team’s best option at left wing. His 1.16 goals per hour at five-on-five is best among forwards on the Canucks, and he’s shown some nifty playmaking skills as well.
    Leivo — acquired from the Toronto Maple Leaves for Michael Carcone back in December – has scored 10 goals in 44 games with the Canucks. That puts him right near a 20-goal pace.
    Leivo would be a helluva 4th liner to add some scoring prowess on that line and can play on the 3rd line even 2nd line if need be, quality depth imo, LW/RW. Also had good CF% 54.4
    Agree, and on a 1.5 mil, expiring contract, so now playing for his career, could work out favorably.
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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by UWSaint » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:01 pm

    SKYO wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:28 am
    It's just early preseason folks, Leivo shaking off the rust.
    No, that's his game.
    SKYO wrote:
    Tue Sep 17, 2019 11:28 am
    In the spring...
    Leivo — acquired from the Toronto Maple Leaves for Michael Carcone back in December – has scored 10 goals in 49 games with the Canucks, playing most frequently along side Elias Pettersson and Brock Boeser and getting plenty of first unit power play time. That puts him right near a 2017-goal pace,about 4.5 more goals than was his pace for the Maple Leaves who ditched him for an AHL player.
    Quote edited for context and to provide final season stats with the Canucks.

    Yes, what great spring numbers!

    Leivo also had a whopping 8 assists in his 49 games with the Canucks, too -- a 13 assist pace! Art Ross in the making.

    I'll give it to Leivo, though. His NHL career top stat lines are better than Reid Boucher's. (133/24/22 v. 133/20/22). Then again, being 4 months older than Boucher, one might expect another 4 points.
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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by micky107 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:10 pm

    "evolution"

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    Post by micky107 » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:12 pm

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    Coach Green is hoping Boeser will skate the next three days and be ready to play Saturday in Utah.

    Demko starts tonight. Good chance McIntyre plays as well.
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    Re: Canucks Pre Season; 2019/2020; Shake It Out.

    Post by Cherry Picker » Tue Sep 17, 2019 12:26 pm

    I'm convinced and agree with UW and will fix this post:

    Three spots, 11th, 12th and13th forwards, for five players that have to clear waivers.
    Motte, Schaller, Goldobin, Eriksson, Lievo

    Eriksson over Goldobin in the first games. He scored. Goldobin nothing that stood out.
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