Injury Update 2018-19

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by dangler » Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:42 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:47 pm
Regarding Baertschi there is strong concern that he could be out a long time. He has a history of concussions and he is not responding well at this point. But concussion recovery is a funny thing. He could suddenly have a good week then the next thing you know he is skating and on his way back. Remember Mitchell, in his contract year, didn’t return. Too much at stake.
So whom decides when its safe for him to play?
He's just signed a 3 year $10 Million contract,at what point would the Canucks be able to move on if he's not willing to return due to risk of re-injury?
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by Richardstroker69 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:07 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 10:25 am
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:52 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 9:23 am
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 8:57 am
What side is tyramkin playing in Russia? That left side is pretty jammed up if he’s gonna play his natural position.
It is?
Don’t you like Hutton? Joulevi, and Hughes are making the jump next year, edler really wants to re sign. If tyramkin is firm on wanting to come back I guess you could see what Hutton will fetch at the deadline.
Hutton has played pretty well. So has Gudbranson but both stunk for the past two seasons. I’m going to need to see bigger sample sizes from both of these players.

Apparently Juolevi is getting lit up defensively in Utica
To be fair to joulevi the whole team is being lit up defensively.

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by vic » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:14 am

If Tryamkin wants to return this year, won't be have to clear waivers because he played overseas?

If so, someone is picking him up.

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by SKYO » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:26 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
Wed Nov 14, 2018 8:47 pm
Regarding Baertschi there is strong concern that he could be out a long time.

There is some talk that he could contemplate a return to Europe next year but that perhaps is his frustration. Each concussion for him has been progressively worse and easier to get. As things stand right now I’d considered him gone for awhile.

But I have heard, not injury related, that Trymankin’s agent is looking at the possibility of Trymankin returning as soon as the KHL season is done. He is exploring the possibility of Trymankin getting released and if the Canucks would make room for him at the end of the season, a 2-3 year deal burning a year this season. He’s not happy right now and his agent is trying to use that to get him a mutual termination of his contract. Could be just rumours planted to get someone’s attention as Benning has expressed interest but hasn’t as of yet been actively involved in making it happen.
IF Tryamkin and his agent are genuine about his return after his KHL season is done, the Canucks should look at all avenues of moving Edler while his value is high riding off a top-tier season last season plus his stellar performance at the World's tournament, he'd make any contender team that much more dangerous.

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by Topper » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:33 am

When did Burke become nice to Vancouver? When Linden left?
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by Hank » Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:34 am

Marky injured? Bachman in tonight?
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by Richardstroker69 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:41 pm

vic wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:14 am
If Tryamkin wants to return this year, won't be have to clear waivers because he played overseas?

If so, someone is picking him up.
Is this how it works even if we have the players rights?

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by 5thhorseman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:11 pm

Richardstroker69 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:41 pm
vic wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:14 am
If Tryamkin wants to return this year, won't be have to clear waivers because he played overseas?

If so, someone is picking him up.
Is this how it works even if we have the players rights?
Doesn't sound like it applies in this case ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waivers_(NHL)
Return waivers

Players who play ice hockey outside North America during a regular season and who are not on loan from or whose playing rights are not already owned by an NHL club (that is, the player is not already on a team's 90-player reserve list such as a qualified restricted free agent or a draft pick) must also be placed on waivers if they are signed to play in the NHL. If the player is picked up by another NHL club on waivers, the player must be placed on waivers again before a further trade or loan can take place.[6]
... as Tryamkin is on the Canucks reserve list.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks/reserve-list

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:29 pm

Yeah I can’t see Baertschi walking away from 10 million bones
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by micky107 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:40 pm

5thhorseman wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:11 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:41 pm
vic wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:14 am
If Tryamkin wants to return this year, won't be have to clear waivers because he played overseas?

If so, someone is picking him up.
Is this how it works even if we have the players rights?
Doesn't sound like it applies in this case ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waivers_(NHL)
Return waivers

Players who play ice hockey outside North America during a regular season and who are not on loan from or whose playing rights are not already owned by an NHL club (that is, the player is not already on a team's 90-player reserve list such as a qualified restricted free agent or a draft pick) must also be placed on waivers if they are signed to play in the NHL. If the player is picked up by another NHL club on waivers, the player must be placed on waivers again before a further trade or loan can take place.[6]
... as Tryamkin is on the Canucks reserve list.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks/reserve-list
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/dmitry-zhukenov

Thanks, I think your right.
I had forgotten about this other dude. Doesn't look too good for him. :(
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by 5thhorseman » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:45 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:29 pm
Yeah I can’t see Baertschi walking away from 10 million bones
As far as I can tell, NHL salaries are guaranteed. So if Bear goes on LTIR, he'll continue to be paid until the end of his contract.

The difficulty would come if the Canucks believe he is over his injury, while Bear is reluctant to return to action. The opposite of the Malhotra situation I guess.

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by micky107 » Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:58 pm

Oct. 24th was a deadly game for us.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can ... dy-injury/
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by Strangelove » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:37 pm

micky107 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:40 pm
https://www.capfriendly.com/players/dmitry-zhukenov

Thanks, I think your right.
I had forgotten about this other dude. Doesn't look too good for him. :(
Yes 5th is right, recall O'Reilly didn't need waivers after Avs matched the offersheet

... and that he would've had to go through waivers if they hadn't matched.

It's happened with a few others, Soderberg being one.

Having said all that, I would be shocked if we saw Tree this season.
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Re: Injury Update.

Post by vic » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:50 pm

5thhorseman wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:11 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 1:41 pm
vic wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 11:14 am
If Tryamkin wants to return this year, won't be have to clear waivers because he played overseas?

If so, someone is picking him up.
Is this how it works even if we have the players rights?
Doesn't sound like it applies in this case ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waivers_(NHL)
Return waivers

Players who play ice hockey outside North America during a regular season and who are not on loan from or whose playing rights are not already owned by an NHL club (that is, the player is not already on a team's 90-player reserve list such as a qualified restricted free agent or a draft pick) must also be placed on waivers if they are signed to play in the NHL. If the player is picked up by another NHL club on waivers, the player must be placed on waivers again before a further trade or loan can take place.[6]
... as Tryamkin is on the Canucks reserve list.

https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/canucks/reserve-list
Nice! Thanks for the research!

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Re: Injury Update.

Post by vic » Thu Nov 15, 2018 3:52 pm

micky107 wrote:
Thu Nov 15, 2018 2:58 pm
Oct. 24th was a deadly game for us.
https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/can ... dy-injury/
I was at that game, they lost Tanev that day too.

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