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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Richardstroker69 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:11 pm

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Sat Sep 15, 2018 11:43 am
I found this PITB article interesting.

I don't know why it hadn't occurred to me all summer, but acquiring PKers was a good move. Even though Eriksson excels on the PK, I truly believe he will have much more value (to the Canucks and as a possible trade asset) if his PK time is reduced and he gets on the PP. For Horvat, while he's improving as a PKer and that's a great skill for him to develop as future-captain, I'd like to see him in a reduced PK role.
I agree both horvat and eriksson should play final shift or no shifts on the pk, eriksson needs to get back into his garbage spot on the pp either 1 or 2.

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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:36 pm

You need six pk forwards

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Then two of Baertschi, Horvat, Eriksson or Virtanen have to round out that group of six. Gagner can’t kill penalties neither will Brock or Petterson. Goldobin isn’t going to do it. Granlund and Gaunce are in tough to make the team and they aren’t good penalty killers either.

I’d like Jake to get some steady minutes killing penalties this season. He won’t see the PP so may as well bump his minutes up a bit on the pk.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by micky107 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 2:16 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:36 pm
You need six pk forwards

Sutter
Beaglet
Schaller
Roussel


Then two of Baertschi, Horvat, Eriksson or Virtanen have to round out that group of six. Gagner can’t kill penalties neither will Brock or Petterson. Goldobin isn’t going to do it. Granlund and Gaunce are in tough to make the team and they aren’t good penalty killers either.

I’d like Jake to get some steady minutes killing penalties this season. He won’t see the PP so may as well bump his minutes up a bit on the pk.
Never really seen Jake block shots much but his speed from A to B is good so he could make passing difficult and high risk for the PP team.
Not to mention a good chance for a shorty or 8.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by micky107 » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:24 pm

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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Strangelove » Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:45 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:36 pm
You need six pk forwards

Sutter
Beaglet
Schaller
Roussel


Then two of Baertschi, Horvat, Eriksson or Virtanen have to round out that group of six. Gagner can’t kill penalties neither will Brock or Petterson. Goldobin isn’t going to do it. Granlund and Gaunce are in tough to make the team and they aren’t good penalty killers either.

I’d like Jake to get some steady minutes killing penalties this season. He won’t see the PP so may as well bump his minutes up a bit on the pk.
I think Gaunce is a decent penalty killer.

Yeah Jake might make a decent one, and I also hope he sees more icetime, but I'd rather it was on PP #2.

What about Gaudette, didn't he kill penalties in college?

He plays a 200' game and is very good positionally... and his skating seems vastly improved this year.

Lipstick might also have what it takes, who knows?
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by ESQ » Sat Sep 15, 2018 6:18 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:36 pm
You need six pk forwards

Sutter
Beaglet
Schaller
Roussel


Then two of Baertschi, Horvat, Eriksson or Virtanen have to round out that group of six. Gagner can’t kill penalties neither will Brock or Petterson. Goldobin isn’t going to do it. Granlund and Gaunce are in tough to make the team and they aren’t good penalty killers either.

I’d like Jake to get some steady minutes killing penalties this season. He won’t see the PP so may as well bump his minutes up a bit on the pk.
True enough, but I'd like to see Bo and Loui at 1:30 shtoi/gp, instead of 2:30+. Bo was in that neighborhood last season, but Loui was one of the top pk forwards.

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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Madcombinepilot » Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:05 am

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Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:04 am
Benning would be doing the empty seats at Rogers Arena a massive favour by getting rid of the oh so exciting crowd pleaser tweeners like Gagner and Granlund and inserting what the fans want - the Gaudettes and Dahlins but that’s not how they roll

Why would Benning simply gift players a spot in the NHL?? How is that going to make people happy for more than a game or 2?? If the kids aren't ready to outplay your tweeners, they won't develop and they will simply get squashed during an 82 game grind.

If rookies outplay the tweeners, Benning will dump tweeners. But it will not help,this club at all to rush kids to the NHL if they can't outplay those tweeners.

That's why I like the acquisitions of Beagle and Rousell.. they are better tweeners.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by dangler » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:28 am

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:05 am
RoyalDude wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 8:04 am
Benning would be doing the empty seats at Rogers Arena a massive favour by getting rid of the oh so exciting crowd pleaser tweeners like Gagner and Granlund and inserting what the fans want - the Gaudettes and Dahlins but that’s not how they roll

Why would Benning simply gift players a spot in the NHL?? How is that going to make people happy for more than a game or 2?? If the kids aren't ready to outplay your tweeners, they won't develop and they will simply get squashed during an 82 game grind.

If rookies outplay the tweeners, Benning will dump tweeners. But it will not help,this club at all to rush kids to the NHL if they can't outplay those tweeners.

That's why I like the acquisitions of Beagle and Rousell.. they are better tweeners.
I think they learned their lesson with Virtanen & McCann. Earn your icetime,it's been repeated by all the players,so you know that's how Greene has told them its gonna be.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by RoyalDude » Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:28 am

Underrated players who get no love:

Sautner
Gaunce
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Strangelove » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:18 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 10:28 am
Underrated players who get no love:

Sautner
Gaunce
I agree but they would probably slide through waivers at the end of camp if needs-be.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Tciso » Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:41 pm

dangler wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:28 am
I think they learned their lesson with Virtanen & McCann. Earn your icetime,it's been repeated by all the players,so you know that's how Greene has told them its gonna be.
The biggest thing learned from 2015/16 with McCann and JV is that you need to have better players than Cracknell, Etem, Prust, a broken Chris Higgins and Vey as the guys to beat out for ice time.

Our bottom 6 this year is light years better than that mess was, and a lot better than it was the past 2 years as well.**

**Disclaimer. If Gaunce is in our bottom 6 this year, then I retract that statement.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm

Tciso wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 12:41 pm
dangler wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:28 am
I think they learned their lesson with Virtanen & McCann. Earn your icetime,it's been repeated by all the players,so you know that's how Greene has told them its gonna be.
The biggest thing learned from 2015/16 with McCann and JV is that you need to have better players than Cracknell, Etem, Prust, a broken Chris Higgins and Vey as the guys to beat out for ice time.

Our bottom 6 this year is light years better than that mess was, and a lot better than it was the past 2 years as well.**

**Disclaimer. If Gaunce is in our bottom 6 this year, then I retract that statement.
Gaunce is no worse a player than Granlund or Goldobin for that matter
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by SKYO » Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:26 pm

Goldy and Pettersson showing instant chemistry.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by micky107 » Sun Sep 16, 2018 2:09 pm

Lots of stuff. I love just taking whatever.
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Re: Canucks camp & preseason 2018/2019

Post by Tciso » Sun Sep 16, 2018 8:37 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sun Sep 16, 2018 1:01 pm
Tciso wrote:
Our bottom 6 this year is light years better than that mess was, and a lot better than it was the past 2 years as well.**

**Disclaimer. If Gaunce is in our bottom 6 this year, then I retract that statement.
Gaunce is no worse a player than Granlund or Goldobin for that matter
Blob, you are gonna have a hard time erasing that comment from the internet.

While Granlund and Goldobin are not yet full time NHL'ers, and may never be, Gaunce has this big hole in his game called a complete lack of offense. The last guy we had who was worse offensively was Jason Struwick.
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