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Uncle dans leg wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:04 pm
How is Myers in our lineup? Or is that wishful thinking...
He'll be wanting yuuuuge bank. Is he worth 6+/yr?
No he’s not, but he’s a youngish right side dman that is massive so he would be welcome. Jimbo likes to overpay his free agents so $6 million might be on the low side.
If he goes after Myers or another right dman I think Tanev is gone, still have Stecher and Guddy around and can’t play all of them.
Blob Mckenzie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:53 pm
Rick Dhaliwal is saying Edler badly wants to stay and that Tanev is who the Canucks want to partner with Quinn Hughesnext season. If Edler refuses to waive, maybe let him walk and spend that money+ Del Zotto’s on a different d man. Maybe they can trade 44 while they are at it.
Edler wants to retire a Canuck and wants to live out the rest his life in Vancouver with his Vancouver raised wife, raising his kids in Vancouver. Trust me on this. His wife’s old man (a builder) built their home in Point Grey. His wife is good buds with Lindens wife. The dude won’t waive and wants to stay here. It’s time we all move on from Trading Edler. Tanev as well
It wouldn't surprise me if Edler retired as a Canuck. It wont matter what his agent tells him. He will take something along the lines of 3.5 for three
or 3 for four.
I agree, Tanev will not be leaving either. Makes perfect sense to pair young Hughes with him.
Besides, the team will NEVER get fair value for him, not even at the TD.
Other GMs will always say "injuries" and "No offensive numbers". We just won't get enough.
Defensemen are at premium! and your guys' low self-esteem on the team regarding edler and tanev is rather depressing lol.
The Canucks could use another Edler and Tanev quite frankly for backup depth.
The only thing hindering a rock solid trade for Eddie is his NTC, even though wherever he's traded to would be only for a few months temporarily.
Tanev only has a modified NTC (8 teams he cannot be traded to), and Benning said he'll only move Tanev if he can get a younger dman who can play now is returned in the deal. Otherwise they'll keep him for another 6-7 years as he is still relatively young at 28 years of age and is one of the best dmen on the team, and yeah -> Hughes - Tanev could be the teams top pairing for many years, like a Methot-Karlsson pairing, where Methot stayed home on D so Karlsson can rush up and take all the risky plays to produce https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/ron ... rc-methot/
“The biggest mistake anybody [in the Senators organization] made was letting Methot go because Methot used to be back [when Karlsson would jump up into the rush],” Cherry said Saturday night during the Coach’s Corner segment on Hockey Night in Canada. “[Karlsson] takes chances. He takes chances and you’ve got to have a guy covering for him all the time.”
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
This team is seeming to turn corner. if we are further along in the rebuild than most of us thought, big if, then keeping both Tanev and Edler makes a ton of sense. This allows us to move on from Del Zotto, for sure, and maybe one of Hutton or Pouliot. Hughes will fill that L sided PP guy, and more. Trymakin if he returns allows us to part with another LD. So MDZ and Pouliot replaced with Hughes and Trymankin.
There is one thing most are forgetting here about rebuilding the defence. There most certainly will be an expansion draft in 2020 with Seattle all but confirmed to have been given a team. If the same rules hold for the next expansion draft, then each team will be allowed to protect three D-men with 3 years pro experience. Which means Hughes, Juolevi and possibly Tryamkin won't be eligible for the draft. There will be however, many good veteran D-men around the NHL teams won't be able to protect. A genius GM would be aware of this and position himself to take advantage. Example: Nashville has four D-men in their mid to late 20s with their captain and best blue liner Roman Jossi coming up to UFA in 2020. Do they let him go or do they sign him to a large contract and deal the $9 million dollar man, P.K.Subban, who'll be 31 years old with 2 years left on his deal? The upcoming expansion draft also favours the Canucks when dealing with Edler as UFA if there are plans to bring him back. No way does any team outside the Canucks give Mr. Edler a no trade clause as a UFA signing and judging by his refusal to waive his NTC now, that is important to him. Interesting times are coming up in 2019.
mr perfect wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:27 pm
There is one thing most are forgetting here about rebuilding the defence. There most certainly will be an expansion draft in 2020 with Seattle all but confirmed to have been given a team. If the same rules hold for the next expansion draft, then each team will be allowed to protect three D-men with 3 years pro experience. Which means Hughes, Juolevi and possibly Tryamkin won't be eligible for the draft. There will be however, many good veteran D-men around the NHL teams won't be able to protect. A genius GM would be aware of this and position himself to take advantage. Example: Nashville has four D-men in their mid to late 20s with their captain and best blue liner Roman Jossi coming up to UFA in 2020. Do they let him go or do they sign him to a large contract and deal the $9 million dollar man, P.K.Subban, who'll be 31 years old with 2 years left on his deal? The upcoming expansion draft also favours the Canucks when dealing with Edler as UFA if there are plans to bring him back. No way does any team outside the Canucks give Mr. Edler a no trade clause as a UFA signing and judging by his refusal to waive his NTC now, that is important to him. Interesting times are coming up in 2019.
Good point, but you got two options, so a team could choose to protect 4 dmen and 4 forwards if need be.
a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender
b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender
* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).
I'll add that the Hurricanes could be a solid trade partner, they got a right side heavy defense and the Canucks could use some of that ammo, might have to do the rare 3-way deal where the Canes get a top6 forward, nucks a right side dman, 3rd team Edler or Tanev.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
Any interest in Ho-Sang? Good marketing move to bring in a player of asian descent to Vancouver...attitude problems seem to be the biggest issue with him. Maybe a trade gives him a kick in the ass to smarten up?
High risk, high reward...could be had for a late draft pick.
mr perfect wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 1:27 pm
There is one thing most are forgetting here about rebuilding the defence. There most certainly will be an expansion draft in 2020 with Seattle all but confirmed to have been given a team. If the same rules hold for the next expansion draft, then each team will be allowed to protect three D-men with 3 years pro experience. Which means Hughes, Juolevi and possibly Tryamkin won't be eligible for the draft. There will be however, many good veteran D-men around the NHL teams won't be able to protect. A genius GM would be aware of this and position himself to take advantage. Example: Nashville has four D-men in their mid to late 20s with their captain and best blue liner Roman Jossi coming up to UFA in 2020. Do they let him go or do they sign him to a large contract and deal the $9 million dollar man, P.K.Subban, who'll be 31 years old with 2 years left on his deal? The upcoming expansion draft also favours the Canucks when dealing with Edler as UFA if there are plans to bring him back. No way does any team outside the Canucks give Mr. Edler a no trade clause as a UFA signing and judging by his refusal to waive his NTC now, that is important to him. Interesting times are coming up in 2019.
Ntc don’t need to be protected it’s nmc that do, and teams aren’t gonna be selling top 4 dmen for pennies on the dollar just because of the expansion draft.
vic wrote: ↑Wed Oct 31, 2018 7:48 am
Any interest in Ho-Sang? Good marketing move to bring in a player of asian descent to Vancouver...attitude problems seem to be the biggest issue with him. Maybe a trade gives him a kick in the ass to smarten up?
High risk, high reward...could be had for a late draft pick.
A little attitude may be good, especially on the ice.
If he is not exp then the Nucks should make an offer.
Not sure the Canucks really need to bring in any forward ‘projects’ right now. Particularly any with baggage. The forward core is developing before us and it is loaded with good character and work ethic. What would be the benefit to bringing in someone else’s problem?
The defencive depth is where Benning should focus on improving.
William Nylander, Sergei Bobrovsky, Artemi Panarin, Vladislav Namestnikov, Kevin Hayes, Mats Zuccarello, Jacob Trouba, Gustav Nyquist, Jimmy Howard, Thomas Vanek, Jesse Puljujarvi and disgruntled Josh Ho-Ho-Sang.
Can the Canucks just win a Cup within the next 5 years.
