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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Cornuck » Wed Apr 04, 2018 11:58 am

I'm on the fence with this - on one hand, Horvat seems like the logical choice and has been here long enough and should have received enough mentorship / training on what it takes to be a captain in the NHL. On the other hand, the next season will likely be a bit of a shit storm and will be hard for anyone who's pointed at as a leader on this team.

As for timing - maybe it would be good to hand the team over to him early (next game?) rather than wait all summer and saddle him with at training camp.

I'm surprised nobody's suggested Markstrom yet! :D
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Hank » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:09 pm

I just don't see any controversies on who's the next captain of your Vancouver Canucks.

It will be Bo. The C can't go to a placeholder, but the A will probably go to vets like Sutter and Edler. It will be announced later around the draft or towards the season in deference to the Sedins.

That will give young guys like Brock time to develop his leadership role and eventually he'll be part of the leadership group.
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by SKYO » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:09 pm

Horvat is built like a young Sammy the Bull, while Sutter is built like Bambi.

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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Lancer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:13 pm

It's gotta be Horvat. Having a place-holder Captain makes little sense unless it's clear to management that none of the kids are ready for it. IMO, Horvat has ripened enough under the Twins that if he can't do it next season, when will he ever? None of the other younger players come close. This is what Horvat's been groomed to be since he made the team. Hell, he's the poster child for the re-tool/rebuild/whatever-they've-been-doing so why not?

That said, while he is the presumptive heir apparent, a final test run and competition in camp next Fall isn't a bad idea. They can make their final decision at the end of camp. They have time.
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Lancer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:19 pm

Hank wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:09 pm
It will be Bo. The C can't go to a placeholder, but the A will probably go to vets like Sutter and Edler. It will be announced later around the draft or towards the season in deference to the Sedins.
Having a couple vets with the A would be best. Not sold on Sutter, but having someone like Edler or Gudbranson would help.
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Cherry Picker » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:25 pm

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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Hank » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:27 pm

Lancer wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:19 pm
Having a couple vets with the A would be best. Not sold on Sutter, but having someone like Edler or Gudbranson would help.
You know Green loves him some Sutter Butter (<- Oh noes, am I becoming a WeeTodd?)

If Dorsett was still playing, you know he would get the other A.
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by ESQ » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:40 pm

Is there any benefit to Horvat's development if he gets the C?

Is there any benefit to him being the point person for a lousy local media in what will be a possibly-awful season?

To me, there's no upside to putting him in that position, so why do it.

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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Lancer » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:41 pm

Hank wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:27 pm
If Dorsett was still playing, you know he would get the other A.
Again, I wish it was Sutter or Ericksson and not Dorsett with the career-ending injury. He's been missed ever since he retired. Could have given Archibald some mentorship before handing over the reins.
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by SKYO » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:48 pm

ESQ wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:40 pm
Is there any benefit to Horvat's development if he gets the C?

Is there any benefit to him being the point person for a lousy local media in what will be a possibly-awful season?

To me, there's no upside to putting him in that position, so why do it.
Bo is doing a lot of the media already so that's no issue, his goal is to be the leader - he'll probably thrive in that role, says he wants to have a long Canuck career like the Sedins, and like the sedins he's always working hard on and off the ice, he helps the young guns when they arrive on the team, solid in the community.

He'll likely be a better player in the captain role.
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Aaronp18 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:02 pm

ESQ wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:40 pm
Is there any benefit to Horvat's development if he gets the C?
Absolutely! If he's deserved of the role and honour why placate fans or media with a placeholder when the real leader of the team is currently playing as one of the best players. As long as the team thinks he's ready he should be given the captaincy!
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Is there any benefit to him being the point person for a lousy local media in what will be a possibly-awful season?
I believe there is, he's very well spoken and understands what the team is doing and that there may be struggles. I've always said the best winners need to learn how to lose before they can learn how to win! Armed with the knowledge that this team isn't expected to be an overwhelming success for at least a couple more years I don't see a downside to having Horvat learn to deal with the attention now. When we are back to expecting wins and then the team doesn't perform that's where the real tough questions come in, learn to deal with some struggles now when expectations are lower and he will be far better off for the future!
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Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:40 pm
To me, there's no upside to putting him in that position, so why do it.
I see a lot of upside, it can even further his confidence level. It can help spread his work ethic and attitude within the team!

I can see him being an even bigger part of the team as the captain......if he's ready! And the team and management know far better than we do.

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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by rats19 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:14 pm

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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by Aaronp18 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:45 pm

rats19 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:14 pm
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by rats19 » Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:51 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:45 pm
rats19 wrote:
Wed Apr 04, 2018 1:14 pm
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Si...
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Re: Captain my Captian

Post by vic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:03 pm

If the team struggles next year, i.e. they don't land Tavares, Dahlin, Karlsson, Carlson and Kane then whoever wears the "C" is going to be bombarded by the media asking how losing the twins has affected the room and questioning whether or not it was a wise choice to give the letter to whoever gets it.

Better be someone who can handle the pressure.

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