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Erik Karlsson

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:47 pm

This deserves its own thread. He is still a top 5 d man in the league and he obviously wants to get the fuck away from Melnyk and the Sens.

Would Tanev, Juolevi and 2018 1st get talks started ? Throw in Gagner to shed more salary. It would have to be dependant on EK agreeing to an extension.

As an asside I don’t make that deal if we have the first overall pick.
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Topper » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:10 pm

Bubbles, trading away more picks.
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by rats19 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:12 pm

He’s 28 though blob, he would be 31/32 by the time we make noise .... I guess with Dmen that still works but it seems alot
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:15 pm

Topper wrote:
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Bubbles, trading away more picks.
So you think trading a pick for an elite player is similar to trading high picks for 3rd line players, bottom pairing d men or Mommy’s Boys playing on a scab Canadian Olympic team ?

Nice to see you offer an opinion
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Doyle Hargraves » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:17 pm

rats19 wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:12 pm
He’s 28 though blob, he would be 31/32 by the time we make noise .... I guess with Dmen that still works but it seems alot
I’m not saying we should do it but I’d sure look hard at it. He’s a top 3 d msn in the world and a top 10 player easily. I think he’s got seven or eight great years left.
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Meds » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:21 pm

rats19 wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:12 pm
He’s 28 though blob, he would be 31/32 by the time we make noise .... I guess with Dmen that still works but it seems alot
He's still under contract next season, so that means if we made the trade at the draft we could sign him for 8 years, and there is no way he accepts less than the maximum term. So 8 years kicking in when he's 29 and we are shelling out at least $9M for a defenseman and needing him to play at that level until he is 37. Karlsson makes sense for a team like Tampa, still young but serious contenders.

There is also the fact that he is having a very down year after surgery on his ankle. He's still light years better than anything we have, but he isn't dominating like he did.....granted, the Senators are a Chinese fire drill right now.

Anyways, I'd take a big old pass on him at this point.

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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Madcombinepilot » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:51 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:47 pm
This deserves its own thread. He is still a top 5 d man in the league and he obviously wants to get the fuck away from Melnyk and the Sens.

Would Tanev, Juolevi and 2018 1st get talks started ? Throw in Gagner to shed more salary. It would have to be dependant on EK agreeing to an extension.

As an asside I don’t make that deal if we have the first overall pick.
I think that's an aweful risky move. It's a few more years before we are potential contenders, and Karlson will be 30+.. he already lost the top gear he had with that last injury last year, and nothing I have seen says he is getting over it.

we don't know what we have in Joulevi and if JB trades a first rounder, he woul,get crucified in the media.
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by SKYO » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:52 pm

I'd rather target OEL tbh, especially if AZ wins the lotto, as Dahlin can take his spot.

Karlsson will be 28 in May, while OEL will be 27 in July so he'll have 5 seasons of NHL prime-time hockey till he reaches 31 years of age when dmen typically start to lose their "powers", Karlsson has 4 seasons left till he's 31 & has ankle probs.

OEL will be the more affordable one to re-sign to an extension as well, while Karlsson and Doughty sound like they want PK Subban money or more.
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Island Nucklehead » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:53 pm

Why not just use the Swedish mafia to tamper tease him into signing as a UFA.

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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Meds » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:13 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:53 pm
Why not just use the Swedish mafia to tamper tease him into signing as a UFA.
Honestly I don't think it is worth burning assets on a trade for him for just that reason.

I don't think Ottawa has a snowball's chance in hell of signing Karlsson at this point, and who can blame him for wanting out now.

Let him hit free agency and then go after him there. If they have pissed him off badly enough he might refuse to give the nod on a sign and trade or pre-arranged extension.

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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Lancer » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:53 pm

Wrong kind of player for a roster that is years away from competing hard. He's the kind of guy a team like Columbus or Washington would go for - teams that are either close to contending or close to not being able to contend anymore and will break the bank for that piece while they have a chance. Vancouver is not either one of them.
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Island Nucklehead » Tue Feb 27, 2018 4:10 am

Lancer wrote:
Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:53 pm
Wrong kind of player for a roster that is years away from competing hard. He's the kind of guy a team like Columbus or Washington would go for - teams that are either close to contending or close to not being able to contend anymore and will break the bank for that piece while they have a chance. Vancouver is not either one of them.
Actually, I think he’s the perfect player to target. A minute-eating, point producing, game changing defenseman to stabalize (and really transform) the back end, at a time when we appear to have dynamic and talented forwards coming online. By the time we draft/develop our own Karlsson, guys like Horvat and or Boeser could be a year or two away from UFA.

Surr, a guy like Tyson Barrie might make more sense age-wise, but Karlsson (like Doughty) is one of the best players in the NHL.

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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Chef Boi RD » Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:40 am

This all could have been avoided had Gilis drafted Erik Karlsson instead of Cody Hodgson
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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Puck » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:52 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Tue Feb 27, 2018 7:40 am
This all could have been avoided had Gilis drafted Erik Karlsson instead of Cody Hodgson
Ouch.

Mind you, Jagr instead of Nedved would have been an interesting twist, too. No point going down this path...

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Re: Erik Karlsson

Post by Topper » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:05 am

But then we couldn't have drafted Kopitar.
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