October / November OOTS
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- Blob Mckenzie
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Re: October / November OOTS
Wasn’t much of a spear but he shouldn’t be fucking around from the bench.
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Re: October / November OOTS
Twas to the nards!Blob Mckenzie wrote:Wasn’t much of a spear but he shouldn’t be fucking around from the bench.
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Re: October / November OOTS
Beyond asshole... no?Strangelove wrote:Twas to the nards!Blob Mckenzie wrote:Wasn’t much of a spear but he shouldn’t be fucking around from the bench.
Silence intelligence so stupid isn’t offended….
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Yeah, cheepass chickenshit move.rats19 wrote:Beyond asshole... no?Strangelove wrote:Twas to the nards!Blob Mckenzie wrote:Wasn’t much of a spear but he shouldn’t be fucking around from the bench.
"cheep" was intentional btw
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Re: October / November OOTS
Leaves get the win in a shootout and these teams did not kill each other.
Oh well another suspension for Tkapuke incoming hopefully.
Oh well another suspension for Tkapuke incoming hopefully.
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Re: October / November OOTS
No, the receiver was a leaf.Strangelove wrote:Twas to the nards!Blob Mckenzie wrote:Wasn’t much of a spear but he shouldn’t be fucking around from the bench.
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I'm amazed that so many people choose to be complete twats.
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Yes but Tkakook is too dumb to know that.Topper wrote:No, the receiver was a leaf.Strangelove wrote: Twas to the nards!
The intent was there.
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Walt's mongoloid grandson has a hearing with the league today.
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Re: October / November OOTS
Matthew Tkachuk - 4 goals 13 assists - Stalwart
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Re: October / November OOTS
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Wasn’t much of a spear but he shouldn’t be fucking around from the bench.
What is a good spear? If he skewers the guy?
That's gotta be at least 10 for getting involved from the bench!
Re: October / November OOTS
Ah ok, so if the Panthers buy him out, they pay a way smaller salary in real dollars (583k), and get almost 5x the cap hit to bring them closer to the floor (2.5 mil next year, rising to 4.3 mil then 4.9 mil for last 2 years of contract).Strangelove wrote:ESQ, I've been speculating on the possibility for quite some time
However, his salary is so low over the next 4 years ($7 mil owing), if they don't but him out they still get $5.3 mil x 4 years cap hit for $7 mil. Buying him out, they give him $4.64 mil over 8 years, for a total cap hit of of $19 mil-ish over 8 years.
So the cash savings are roughly equal to the loss of cap hit (roughly $2.4 mil).
But all those numbers from the buyout calculator don't take into account the additional cap recapture penalty. That costs zero extra cash, and adds $350k to Florida's cap for 4 years and 525k to the Canucks cap for 4 years...
BUT! Luongo was 31 when the new contract kicked in, so if he does retire this year, we're still saving on the $800k of retained salary!
According to Mirtle's chart, this would be the last year where a Luongo retirement results in cap savings over the retained salary.
So so-long, Lu, you brave warrior! Heckuva career by a heckuva guy!
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Lol a 50 point pace is a bad thing for a 2nd year player. Gesus ChristRoyalDude wrote:Matthew Tkachuk - 4 goals 13 assists - Stalwart
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... and yup he gets another one-game suspension.Strangelove wrote: Oh well another suspension for Tkapuke incoming hopefully.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/flam ... -spearing/
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Hey ESQ, I only referred to my old buyout theory because Aaron alluded to our conversation bout dat dere.ESQ wrote:Ah ok, so if the Panthers buy him out, they pay a way smaller salary in real dollars (583k), and get almost 5x the cap hit to bring them closer to the floor (2.5 mil next year, rising to 4.3 mil then 4.9 mil for last 2 years of contract).Strangelove wrote:ESQ, I've been speculating on the possibility for quite some time
However, his salary is so low over the next 4 years ($7 mil owing), if they don't but him out they still get $5.3 mil x 4 years cap hit for $7 mil. Buying him out, they give him $4.64 mil over 8 years, for a total cap hit of of $19 mil-ish over 8 years.
So the cash savings are roughly equal to the loss of cap hit (roughly $2.4 mil).
But all those numbers from the buyout calculator don't take into account the additional cap recapture penalty. That costs zero extra cash, and adds $350k to Florida's cap for 4 years and 525k to the Canucks cap for 4 years...
BUT! Luongo was 31 when the new contract kicked in, so if he does retire this year, we're still saving on the $800k of retained salary!
According to Mirtle's chart, this would be the last year where a Luongo retirement results in cap savings over the retained salary.
So so-long, Lu, you brave warrior! Heckuva career by a heckuva guy!
Aaron once figured Lou could just (shadily) be placed on permanent LTIR.
I pointed out that would be unlikely/difficult... because it has to be a legit injury.
Then I came up with my WHAT IF speculative buyout theory.
It would only work IF Lou's game fell off a cliff in his old age
... and/or was in-and-out of the lineup with nagging injuries (but not perma-LTIR worthy).
The idea was it would give the Cats a lot of cap-space for low $$ and get a decrepit Lou off the team.
A side effect might be a Canuck-friendly theoretical cancellation of the cap-recap penalty.
(CBOs canceled recap, perhaps a regular buyout would as well - I've searched, no one knows)
Aaron and I had this conversation just before Lou's groin + hip injuries arrived.
So perhaps he is headed toward legit perma-LTIR.
(sorry Lou)
Not looking to go further down the buyout-Lou road, but I must point out a few errors in your post.
All those cap/real-money numbers you gave must be reduced by 15% - Canucks retained that.
(this includes all your buyout numbers)
You have the Cats present Lou-cap-hit at $5.3M - that should be $4.5M.
Also, you divided Myrtle's recap #s by the # of years - you should have multiplied it.
(eg the 2018 number is ~$1.45M each year for 4 years = ~$5.8 total)
But anyway, the perma-LTIR option is looking more and more likely as time marches on...
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