The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Wed May 16, 2018 7:57 pm

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He should be shooting for 9-10 picks per draft in a rebuild
Yeahno, we don't wanna create a prospect logjam. 8-)
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by RoyalDude » Thu May 17, 2018 7:42 am

Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, Zadina and Hughes are guaranteed gonzo by the time we are picking the 7th pick. Who is that last prospect who will go top 6 who won’t be available to us? IMO it’s beteeen Bouchard, Wahlstrom and Boqvist who go top 6. I’m going with Bouchard.

The Canucks will be deciding, between Dobson, Boqvist and Wahlstrom, IMO.

The pick - Dobson
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Uncle dans leg » Fri May 18, 2018 9:25 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 7:42 am
Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, Zadina and Hughes are guaranteed gonzo by the time we are picking the 7th pick. Who is that last prospect who will go top 6 who won’t be available to us? IMO it’s beteeen Bouchard, Wahlstrom and Boqvist who go top 6. I’m going with Bouchard.

The Canucks will be deciding, between Dobson, Boqvist and Wahlstrom, IMO.

The pick - Dobson
My moneys on Boquist if available.

-He was top 5 until 2 weeks ago.
-He's Swedish
-He has elite potential (Dooby-son only has top 4 potential)

The Canucks(GMJB) really need to swing for the fences with their defense. Its a gaping hole and adding another avarage d prospect isnt going to cut it if we hope to be contending before Jimmy is gone
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by SKYO » Fri May 18, 2018 10:41 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Thu May 17, 2018 7:42 am
Dahlin, Svechnikov, Tkachuk, Zadina and Hughes are guaranteed gonzo by the time we are picking the 7th pick. Who is that last prospect who will go top 6 who won’t be available to us? IMO it’s beteeen Bouchard, Wahlstrom and Boqvist who go top 6. I’m going with Bouchard.

The Canucks will be deciding, between Dobson, Boqvist and Wahlstrom, IMO.

The pick - Dobson
My semi worry with Brady Tkachuk is that he falls like Gabriel Vilardi (ranked top 5) did and right to the Canucks who desperately need a dman, as Tkachuk had a poor points total until the junior championships when paired with mittelstadt, meaning he's not much of a driver of creating points by only does well with a high point center.

Liljegren was ranked high then dropped and for good reason he hasn't been that impactful since he got drafted & other junior Swedes dmen have passed him in the depth chart. AHL 2pts in 9 playoff games and 17pts in 44 regular season games, 2pts in 7 WJC-20 games and he's supposed to be a QB. - I think Boqvist quickly passes this dude.
Now having said I think Liljegren will be ok in time, but not so dominant.

Picking 4-10 this year is the hardest one to predict in a while.

(copy/paste from http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/ )

4
Evan Bouchard
Ht/Wt:6' 2"/193 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: London (OHL)


5
Adam Boqvist
Ht/Wt:5'11"/168 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Brynas Jr. (SWE-JR.)


6
Brady Tkachuk
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/196 lbs
Position:LW
Team: Boston U (H-EAST)


7
Oliver Wahlstrom
Ht/Wt:6' 1"/205 lbs
Position:C/RW
Team: USA U-18 (NTDP)


8
Quinton Hughes
Ht/Wt:5'10"/170 lbs
Position:LHD
Team: Michigan (NCAA)


9
Noah Dobson
Ht/Wt:6' 3"/180 lbs
Position:RHD
Team: Acadie-Bathurst (QMJHL)


10
Joel Farabee
Ht/Wt:6' 0"/164 lbs
Position:LW
Team: USA U-18 (NTDP)

So it looks like we'll have no choice but to take Wahlstrom (always pick the best player available)
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by micky107 » Fri May 18, 2018 12:05 pm

Stay away from Hughes because no matter how good he looks now, he is even smaller than Stecher and Biega.
With even more enforcement of rules, (to create more power plays), gonna need a larger fast skating defense man that can not only catch
up to the rusher but get body position and legally strip him of the puck.

Well aware how much that is asking.

In retrospect, we just may have to spend a hefty chunk of change and get it thru other means.

I know I wanted to keep cap space but this is going to be imperative.

We truly need another Jovo cop!

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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Fri May 18, 2018 1:04 pm

Have another pitcher of draft Fred
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Fri May 18, 2018 1:18 pm

When it's really close, one rational tie-breaker for players this young is choosing the younger player, the reasoning being that they would have likely achieved less of their ultimate potential.

Using that logic, I hope the Canucks are able to select Boqvist (08-15-00).

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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Hockey Widow » Fri May 18, 2018 1:28 pm

Picking a RHD would allow us to consider moving Tanev, perhaps not this year but next, or at the TDD if we fall out of it again. I’m assuming that that pick likely won’t be too impactful, if at all, for the Canucks this upcoming season.

Picking a LW shores up a need in our top six.

To me though picking a player who has the potential to play top six centre is crucial. We’ve lost Hank. I’m not sold on Pettersson yet as a top six centre, at least yet. And I’m not sold on Horvat being the number one centre. To me he is a perfect number two guy. In a perfect world anyway. By default he is the number one but I don’t think that makes us strong enough down the middle.

But I agree with the sentiment that you should draft the PBA. Fortunately we have a lot of needs :mrgreen: so whoever we get will be ok.
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Fri May 18, 2018 1:44 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
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But I agree with the sentiment that you should draft the PBA. Fortunately we have a lot of needs :mrgreen: so whoever we get will be ok.
For a team with as many needs as the Canucks, I think that at least part of the definition of "best" player is the one with highest trade value.

In that sense, for equal levels of talent: defencemen>centres>wingers>goalies

On the other hand, historically it has been harder to predict which defencemen in a given draft will turn out best. Does anyone know if there have been advances in scouting methods that would allow better prediction of the potential of 18 year-old defencemen? I expect teams are likely to keep those secret, if there have been.

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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by micky107 » Fri May 18, 2018 2:19 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
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Have another pitcher of draft Fred
C'mon, Blob you have to know a quarterback D-man is the only way to really kick-start this team.
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Uncle dans leg » Fri May 18, 2018 3:43 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
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Have another pitcher of draft Fred
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by damonberryman » Fri May 18, 2018 5:55 pm

While it would be nice to get a top D, I am looking at this kid Velano. Sure he is up front but he has size and talent. BPA.

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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Topper » Fri May 18, 2018 9:14 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
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Have another pitcher of draft Fred
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Re: The 2018 NHL Entry Draft

Post by Diehard1 » Sat May 19, 2018 7:46 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
Fri May 18, 2018 1:28 pm
Picking a RHD would allow us to consider moving Tanev, perhaps not this year but next, or at the TDD if we fall out of it again. I’m assuming that that pick likely won’t be too impactful, if at all, for the Canucks this upcoming season.

Picking a LW shores up a need in our top six.

To me though picking a player who has the potential to play top six centre is crucial. We’ve lost Hank. I’m not sold on Pettersson yet as a top six centre, at least yet. And I’m not sold on Horvat being the number one centre. To me he is a perfect number two guy. In a perfect world anyway. By default he is the number one but I don’t think that makes us strong enough down the middle.

But I agree with the sentiment that you should draft the PBA. Fortunately we have a lot of needs :mrgreen: so whoever we get will be ok.
Agreed on the RHD, which I think is likely to be our pick. Boqvist, Bouchard, or Dobson.

For LW, if Tkachuk falls to 7 he’s a no-brainer. Position of need and he’s a great pick at 7 - not so great top 3, but definitely at 7. I don’t expect that to happen though.

For centre, I expect that will be the focus of next year’s draft. Hughes, Dach, Newhook, Cozens, Turcotte all top 10 talents and all play C. I expect we will be picking top 10 again next year barring a major surprise.

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