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Post by rats19 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:19 pm

For 47 years fans have had great ideas and thoughts of course some better than others.

However never once has any of them come to pass... but I appreciate reading about them these past 18 years so keep it up ...

Bits and pieces have happened as projected but in reality we have the curse ....at least we have a team to be cursed... thank the good lord above
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Post by DonCherry4PM » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:45 pm

Meds wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:12 pm
With the Sedins staying mum about their plans next year, and the kids saying it’s Sutter they go to for advice from a vet, combined with DelZotto being a major leadership presence for them as well, Benning should not be in a rush to trade Vanek. If the return for Vanek is less than a 3rd, then give him 2 years @ $3M (?). Don’t offer the Sedins a new contract, even if they want one, until you have a better picture of what you can/cannot get come July 1st. Proceed as if they are retiring and let Vanek be the old man in the room. A couple of years for him isn’t bad, and it means only one roster spot taken from a young player instead of two.

And if babysitting has been the issue for Edler and Gudbranson as Topper suggests, then do indeed move out Tanev for a big and exciting return, and also move out one of the babysittees.....preferably Hutton.
Meds, just wondering where you heard/read the bolded text? Not trying to be an ass, just found it interesting to read as I hadn't come across that before.

With respect to trades, I wouldn't mind getting rid of any of the veteran players, so long as the return is reasonable and we keep/sign a couple to take the heat off the kids. As SKYO noted, Tanev does seem like the most reasonable asset to part with if the team wants a serious return.
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I wonder what JB could get out of Chicago if he were willing to take on Seabrook's salary. I would love to get their 1st somehow, I think it'll be a high-lottery pick when all is said and done. And even the diminished Seabrook is likely the best dman on this team.

I wonder if Tanev + Goldy would get Seabrook + 1st?

Bowman isn't afraid to pull the trigger on big trades, but he hasn't traded away many 1RPs (only in 2015 for Vermette and 2016 for Ladd), and this will be his first high-1st pick.

It might be more likely an off-season trade, but the value of Chicago's 1st will go up substantially after the end-of-season and lottery.
I wouldn't mind Seabrook plus their first overall if the team could somehow part ways with Eriksson, but I doubt very much Chicago would be willing to take him in a deal. Having two large boat anchor contracts to deal with while trying to sign all these young "generational" talents might prove difficult, particularly given that Seabrook's contract runs through 23-24.
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Post by SKYO » Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:52 pm

Trades are happening!

Chris DiDomenico from the Ottawa Senators in exchange for defenseman Blackhawks Ville Pokka.

And Leafs send Soshnikov to the Blues for a 2019 4th rounder.


nhlrumours say: Islanders, Leafs and Capitals in on Gudbranson...& lesser extent the Stars.
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Post by Jovocop » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:17 pm

SKYO wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Trades are happening!

Chris DiDomenico from the Ottawa Senators in exchange for defenseman Blackhawks Ville Pokka.
Pokka was once highly touted. He was on waiver at the beginning of the season but no takers. It seems like defensemen have not much time to develop these days. Once they are not waiver exempt, they either make it to the NHL or just shuffle around teams.

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Post by RoyalDude » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:08 pm

SKYO wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Trades are happening!

Chris DiDomenico from the Ottawa Senators in exchange for defenseman Blackhawks Ville Pokka.

And Leafs send Soshnikov to the Blues for a 2019 4th rounder.


nhlrumours say: Islanders, Leafs and Capitals in on Gudbranson...& lesser extent the Stars.
Islanders got loads of picks thanks to the Flames overpayment for Hamonic, could see a trade partner there regarding Guds
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Post by RoyalDude » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:14 pm

DonCherry4PM wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:45 pm
Meds wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:12 pm
With the Sedins staying mum about their plans next year, and the kids saying it’s Sutter they go to for advice from a vet, combined with DelZotto being a major leadership presence for them as well, Benning should not be in a rush to trade Vanek. If the return for Vanek is less than a 3rd, then give him 2 years @ $3M (?). Don’t offer the Sedins a new contract, even if they want one, until you have a better picture of what you can/cannot get come July 1st. Proceed as if they are retiring and let Vanek be the old man in the room. A couple of years for him isn’t bad, and it means only one roster spot taken from a young player instead of two.

And if babysitting has been the issue for Edler and Gudbranson as Topper suggests, then do indeed move out Tanev for a big and exciting return, and also move out one of the babysittees.....preferably Hutton.
Meds, just wondering where you heard/read the bolded text? Not trying to be an ass, just found it interesting to read as I hadn't come across that before.

With respect to trades, I wouldn't mind getting rid of any of the veteran players, so long as the return is reasonable and we keep/sign a couple to take the heat off the kids. As SKYO noted, Tanev does seem like the most reasonable asset to part with if the team wants a serious return.
ESQ wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 12:45 pm
I wonder what JB could get out of Chicago if he were willing to take on Seabrook's salary. I would love to get their 1st somehow, I think it'll be a high-lottery pick when all is said and done. And even the diminished Seabrook is likely the best dman on this team.

I wonder if Tanev + Goldy would get Seabrook + 1st?

Bowman isn't afraid to pull the trigger on big trades, but he hasn't traded away many 1RPs (only in 2015 for Vermette and 2016 for Ladd), and this will be his first high-1st pick.

It might be more likely an off-season trade, but the value of Chicago's 1st will go up substantially after the end-of-season and lottery.
I wouldn't mind Seabrook plus their first overall if the team could somehow part ways with Eriksson, but I doubt very much Chicago would be willing to take him in a deal. Having two large boat anchor contracts to deal with while trying to sign all these young "generational" talents might prove difficult, particularly given that Seabrook's contract runs through 23-24.
Speaking of Chicago if Gaudettes teamate - Dylan Sikura decides to become a free agent Instead of signing with the Hawks should JimBro make a run for Sikura? The Hawks are trending terribly in the wrong direction, he may want to sign ul with a team trending in right direction like your JimBro Canucks??? You with me?
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Post by Meds » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:13 pm

DonCherry4PM wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:45 pm
Meds wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:12 pm
With the Sedins staying mum about their plans next year, and the kids saying it’s Sutter they go to for advice from a vet, combined with DelZotto being a major leadership presence for them as well, Benning should not be in a rush to trade Vanek. If the return for Vanek is less than a 3rd, then give him 2 years @ $3M (?). Don’t offer the Sedins a new contract, even if they want one, until you have a better picture of what you can/cannot get come July 1st. Proceed as if they are retiring and let Vanek be the old man in the room. A couple of years for him isn’t bad, and it means only one roster spot taken from a young player instead of two.

And if babysitting has been the issue for Edler and Gudbranson as Topper suggests, then do indeed move out Tanev for a big and exciting return, and also move out one of the babysittees.....preferably Hutton.
Meds, just wondering where you heard/read the bolded text? Not trying to be an ass, just found it interesting to read as I hadn't come across that before.

With respect to trades, I wouldn't mind getting rid of any of the veteran players, so long as the return is reasonable and we keep/sign a couple to take the heat off the kids. As SKYO noted, Tanev does seem like the most reasonable asset to part with if the team wants a serious return.
I was replying to what The Dude said a closer to the top of the page.....
Royal_Dude wrote: Linden and Benning seem to really like the leadership in the room that MDZ provide, that revelation in the room tells you he's staying.

I like what Benning said in how at last years year in meetings the kids all said that Sutter was the vet they all turned to for advice, but hey let's not talk about the importance of having someone like that for the kids to lean on.
I mean who knows how accurate that is, but if it's true.....

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Post by Meds » Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:16 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:08 pm
SKYO wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:52 pm
Trades are happening!

Chris DiDomenico from the Ottawa Senators in exchange for defenseman Blackhawks Ville Pokka.

And Leafs send Soshnikov to the Blues for a 2019 4th rounder.


nhlrumours say: Islanders, Leafs and Capitals in on Gudbranson...& lesser extent the Stars.
Islanders got loads of picks thanks to the Flames overpayment for Hamonic, could see a trade partner there regarding Guds
If the Stars want him, Jim had better be gently reminded by someone about the circumstances regarding the Hamhuis trade, and then drive a really hard bargain.

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Post by RoyalDude » Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:01 am

Canucks have apparently inquired about Max Domi but the price too high.
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Post by SKYO » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:18 pm

Sven+Huts for Domi+ getr done JB.

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E.Karlsson + Hoffman
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Post by ESQ » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:25 pm

DonCherry4PM wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:45 pm

I wouldn't mind Seabrook plus their first overall if the team could somehow part ways with Eriksson, but I doubt very much Chicago would be willing to take him in a deal. Having two large boat anchor contracts to deal with while trying to sign all these young "generational" talents might prove difficult, particularly given that Seabrook's contract runs through 23-24.
I think Seabrook's contract is a boat anchor on a top-heavy Hawks team, I think it would fit fine as he's only adding $2 mil to the cap if Tanev (or another D) goes the other way. And as much as he's slipped in recent years, he'll still be the best dman on this team for quite a while.

If you want to get rid of Loui, unfortunately you're giving up other assets to get rid of the contract at this stage. His value is so low, might as well wait until the expansion draft or until his real salary drops.

And in spite of this season, I still believe his best season as a Canuck is yet to come - fortunately the bar is low that shouldn't be too far-fetched!

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Post by SKYO » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:46 pm

IIRC I mentioned something like Eriksson for Seabrook as a base in the offseason last year and about 4-5 people started attacking me on here lol.

If you want to include Tanev in the deal, might as well get Saad back, heard rumours they might want to move him.

Tanev+Eriksson for Seabrook (20% retention) + Saad.

Hawks save a bit on the cap, and they can move Eriksson sooner, ditching about 3 years of Seabrooks contract at the end in the process.
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Post by Blob Mckenzie » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:07 pm

Meds wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 8:13 pm
DonCherry4PM wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:45 pm
Meds wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:12 pm
With the Sedins staying mum about their plans next year, and the kids saying it’s Sutter they go to for advice from a vet, combined with DelZotto being a major leadership presence for them as well, Benning should not be in a rush to trade Vanek. If the return for Vanek is less than a 3rd, then give him 2 years @ $3M (?). Don’t offer the Sedins a new contract, even if they want one, until you have a better picture of what you can/cannot get come July 1st. Proceed as if they are retiring and let Vanek be the old man in the room. A couple of years for him isn’t bad, and it means only one roster spot taken from a young player instead of two.

And if babysitting has been the issue for Edler and Gudbranson as Topper suggests, then do indeed move out Tanev for a big and exciting return, and also move out one of the babysittees.....preferably Hutton.
Meds, just wondering where you heard/read the bolded text? Not trying to be an ass, just found it interesting to read as I hadn't come across that before.

With respect to trades, I wouldn't mind getting rid of any of the veteran players, so long as the return is reasonable and we keep/sign a couple to take the heat off the kids. As SKYO noted, Tanev does seem like the most reasonable asset to part with if the team wants a serious return.
I was replying to what The Dude said a closer to the top of the page.....
Royal_Dude wrote: Linden and Benning seem to really like the leadership in the room that MDZ provide, that revelation in the room tells you he's staying.

I like what Benning said in how at last years year in meetings the kids all said that Sutter was the vet they all turned to for advice, but hey let's not talk about the importance of having someone like that for the kids to lean on.
I mean who knows how accurate that is, but if it's true.....
Lol the dude is the source. No agenda there at all. I remember Sutter calling out a rookie to have grit and balls and saying Henrik shot the puck like a 10 year old girl.
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Post by Blob Mckenzie » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:11 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:01 am
Canucks have apparently inquired about Max Domi but the price too high.
Baertshi and Hutton enough to get talks started ?
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Post by Lancer » Fri Feb 16, 2018 1:39 pm

SKYO wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:18 pm
Sven+Huts for Domi+ getr done JB.

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RumorBreak:

Ottawa Senators discussing a HUGE trade with the Edmonton Oilers.
E.Karlsson + Hoffman
for
Puljujarvi + RNH + Klefbom + 2018 first.
Eklund is smoking Chiapet’s crack pipe hard there. That won’t come close to getting it done.
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