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Post by Strangelove » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:15 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:36 pm
Richardstroker69 wrote:
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:36 am
It’s going to cost one of Petterson, Horvat or Boeser + 7 + Tanev. Ottawa wants quality.
7th and Tanev for Karlsson and bobby
Ottawa could get a hell of a lot more from someone else. They would want one of Bo/Elias/Brock.

I guess you might get him for Olaf, #7, and Tanev. But something tells me another team can beat that and it guts the future on D as well, as this team is likely picking a d man at 7.

No idea why some posters are so hot to trade this years pick. The Canucks have excellent prospect depth at wing and goalie. They got sweet fuck all up the middle and on defence.
Sweet fuck all up the middle? Image

Horvat
Pettersson
Gaudette
Gaunce (he's a natural centre)
MacEwen

Dahlen could possibly end up as a centre...
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Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:28 pm

Petterson has played very little centre the past two seasons. When had Dahlen played there? MacEwan played the wing in Utica.

I was talking prospects. Gaunce will turn 25 next year.
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Post by Iceman2014 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:00 pm

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Sat Jun 16, 2018 5:16 pm
Can we stop with the Karlsson trade ideas? Given the state of the team, this is the last kind of deal Benning should make. The net benefit he would provide considering what Benning would have to give up would possibly get the team to the playoffs, but he wouldn’t make them a contender. By the time the team gets to that point, he’ll be in the same phase of his career as the Sedins the last couple of years. In the meantime, those playoff appearances will guarantee that Benning is picking in the bottom half of any draft round - not really conducive to building contenders.

A Karlsson trade would be more suitable for a team like Toronto, Winnipeg, or even Las Vegas (if they think this year wasn’t a fluke) - teams that feel they need that one big piece to push them over the top and have the assets to part with or feel it’s worth it to mortgage the future to contend for the next three years a-la Gillis.

Vancouver is nowhere close to that neighborhood. Better to engineer a trade for a younger defenseman with less established value but whom management is betting will reach a higher ceiling in a new organization. Maybe somebody like Dumba or Ristolainen. That said, I would hope that management would have scouted the snot out of them to get a good read on just what they’re getting because even then they wouldn’t come cheap.

Wonder if Winnipeg gets into a situation where they don’t have cap room for Trouba? Another possible target.
Agreend. Karlsson would rob us of our youth and prospects. idiotic idea.

Also, why the fuck would we want to deal Loui for Humpback Lucic?! Loui can still be useful even if he drastically overpaid. WTF can Lucic do?! Fight middleweights and middleweights +?! Whoopee! Move on. Sign Reaves and send Archi back to Utica.

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Post by Strangelove » Sat Jun 16, 2018 8:51 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:28 pm
Petterson has played very little centre the past two seasons.
Everyone and his dog is projecting Pettersson to eventually be a top-6 NHL centre, don't play dumb...
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
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When had Dahlen played there?
Okay you caught me, I was reaching by tacking Dahlen in at the end there.

It's been 3 years since he was a full-time centre.

But hey, I said "possibly" one day... and anything is possible. :)
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
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MacEwan played the wing in Utica.
Yes well he's still a natural centre and he qualifies as a centre prospect for your Vancouver Canucks.
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I was talking prospects. Gaunce will turn 25 next year.
Wut da foick? :crazy: The kid just turned 24! :lol:

He and/or MacEwan could easily become 4th line centres at some point in the future.

(oh and I forgot about Cassels, still a possibility for dat dere)

Anyway, top 3 centres for the next decade+ are Petterson, Horvat, Gaudette, I don't see a problem/need here...
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Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sat Jun 16, 2018 9:35 pm

We don’t know what position Petterson will end up playing. We hope Gaudette turns into a player. It’s not as razor thin as defence but it isn’t an organization strong point
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Post by Tiger » Sun Jun 17, 2018 5:35 am

micky107 wrote:
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Lucic for Eriksson! Bad deal for bad deal...

Why not...
That is like so exactly right, LOL
Tiger would like it though ;)
No way would I like it ! Erickson is a top defensive forward with the ability to score a few goals . Lucic has turned out to be not that good. ( by the way Tiger Williams was not only a fighter but a good checker and also the top goalscorer in 83 )
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Post by Uncle dans leg » Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:35 am

Loui has been far from elite at anything in canucks colors Tiger. Hes pretty well the worst contract in the NHL right now....along with Lucic.

When your team is looking at adding a 160lb kid to the top line you better have an answer for teams that will exploit that weakness. Loui isnt going to be that answer and having him hanging his muppet head on the bench after doing perimeter fly-bys every shift is actually going to hurt the kids development.
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Post by Iceman2014 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:14 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 7:35 am
Loui has been far from elite at anything in canucks colors Tiger. Hes pretty well the worst contract in the NHL right now....along with Lucic.

When your team is looking at adding a 160lb kid to the top line you better have an answer for teams that will exploit that weakness. Loui isnt going to be that answer and having him hanging his muppet head on the bench after doing perimeter fly-bys every shift is actually going to hurt the kids development.
You're absolutely delusional if you think Loui has the worst contract. It certainly does suck but it's not the worst. Loui is still an effective defensive forward and can skate. He may rebound a bit on a better team in the scoring area too. Hopefully he gets moved this summer.

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Post by Uncle dans leg » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:22 am

https://thehockeywriters.com/worst-nhl-contracts-2018/
Well hes definitely our worst contract and is right there with all the other shitty contracts so its a bit of a stretch to call it delusional.
Where is all this love for LE coming from? Hes been a total failure in his time in van...what the hell has he done to deserve this much respect?
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Post by Reefer2 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:32 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:
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https://thehockeywriters.com/worst-nhl-contracts-2018/
Well hes definitely our worst contract and is right there with all the other shitty contracts so its a bit of a stretch to call it delusional.
Where is all this love for LE coming from? Hes been a total failure in his time in van...what the hell has he done to deserve this much respect?
Because he plays well on the PK.

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Post by Uncle dans leg » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:43 am

LE registered 7 hits. All fuckin season.

All fucking season!

Hes been fan-fuckin-tastic. The bar really has been set low in vancouver when we defend a guy with zero game winning goals and 7 hits all season
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Post by micky107 » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:59 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:43 am
LE registered 7 hits. All fuckin season.

All fucking season!

Hes been fan-fuckin-tastic. The bar really has been set low in vancouver when we defend a guy with zero game winning goals and 7 hits all season
Could not agree more! I mean this guy really has virtually no excuse, none.
http://www.espn.com/nhl/player/stats/_/ ... i-eriksson
Look at the shooting percentage. What? Did he just forget how?
Game winners are just fu--ing impressive too.
I'll say one thing though. makes sure he takes all the time he needs for those nasty boo-boos, ya. {insert puking smiley}
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Post by Uncle dans leg » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:18 am

Number like that tell me the guy is milking cheques out of the eye-ties and loving his summers off
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Post by Madcombinepilot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:29 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:28 pm
Petterson has played very little centre the past two seasons. When had Dahlen played there? MacEwan played the wing in Utica.

I was talking prospects. Gaunce will turn 25 next year.
This team doesn't make the playoffs if Gaunce is on it.
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Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:35 am

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:29 am
Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sat Jun 16, 2018 7:28 pm
Petterson has played very little centre the past two seasons. When had Dahlen played there? MacEwan played the wing in Utica.

I was talking prospects. Gaunce will turn 25 next year.
This team doesn't make the playoffs if Gaunce is on it.
I think the problems for this team run a lot deeper than who is the 12th/13th forward. Like is there an actual 2nd line? Is Elmer going to add a couple of top 4 d men? This team constructed as is, is a garbage fire. It has a few nice young pieces at forward but gaping holes throughout the system. Pinning the playoffs on Brendan Gaunce’s role on the team seems a bit disingenuous
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