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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by ukcanuck » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:33 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:22 pm
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:22 pm
Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:38 pm
Island Nucklehead wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:57 pm
Topper wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:41 pm

The only players left from the team that hit the ice in 2013/2014
Henrik Sedin
Daniel Sedin
Alex Edler
Chris Tanev

...but people only thought the rebuild began when Hansen and Burrows were moved. LOL
Turnover happens.

Pittsburgh Penguins:
Crosby
Dumoulin (a whopping 6 GP in 13/14)
Letang
Maata
Malkin

Edmonton Oilers:
Klefbom
RNH

Arizona:
Ekman-Larsson
2 of those teams were rebuilding and the other is a oddity built around 3 superstars...
Excellent analysis.
It wasn't an analysis. :scowl:

Topper was pointing out we were in a rebuild at a point in time many here denied it.

YOUR response seemed to be that the "turnover" does not prove a rebuild.

MY response was that YES, yes it kinda does.

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If you ask me ( and no one did ) but the rebuild began with the kesler trade. This idea of a soft rebuild or whatever was merely Benning icing a team that he could the slot rookies in without making them carry the load Like they do in Edmonton.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:45 pm

I guess it was always sort of a rebuild. Then again you never know with carpinders
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Hockey Widow » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:21 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:35 pm
With Sutter back Goldobin has been returned to Utica.
Is Chaput still here?

I think so. He's not listed on the Comet's but Goldobin is so I assume it means we still have Chaput, as the 13 forward.

Neither Boucher or Goldobin really took advantage of the opportunities.Chaput is more a bottom 6.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Madcombinepilot » Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:49 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 pm
Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:21 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:35 pm
With Sutter back Goldobin has been returned to Utica.
Is Chaput still here?

I think so. He's not listed on the Comet's but Goldobin is so I assume it means we still have Chaput, as the 13 forward.

Neither Boucher or Goldobin really took advantage of the opportunities.Chaput is more a bottom 6.
Yeah.. Boucher has a great, heavy shot, but his release is to slow to translate to the show.. gobby just doesn't seem to have the drive.....
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Reefer2 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:04 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:49 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 pm
Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:21 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:35 pm
With Sutter back Goldobin has been returned to Utica.
Is Chaput still here?

I think so. He's not listed on the Comet's but Goldobin is so I assume it means we still have Chaput, as the 13 forward.

Neither Boucher or Goldobin really took advantage of the opportunities.Chaput is more a bottom 6.
Yeah.. Boucher has a great, heavy shot, but his release is to slow to translate to the show.. gobby just doesn't seem to have the drive.....
How many more chances does he have? This season and next then off to Russia?

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by BladesofSteel » Sat Jan 13, 2018 10:13 pm

I've been underwhelmed with Goldobin's game. Utica's pushing for a playoff spot, he'll be a big boost for them down there.

Gaudette with 2 more assists tonite.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Todd Bersnoozi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:21 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:52 am
Detroit - Frans Nielsen
Boston - David Backes
Islanders - Ladd
Edmonton - Lucic
Flames - Brouwer
Vancouver - Eriksson

None of those teams are/were/kinda/sorta rebuilding? All those big UFA signings were signed the same summer as Eriksson.
Nope, they were not rebuilding, they were going for the playoffs. That's why Strange is wrong. Boston made it. Edmonton made it. Calgary made it. Isle just missed it by 1 point. Not really sure what Detroit is doing, so can't really comment there.

And yeah, I followed the Lucic signing closely as the Canucks were really interested in him as well. He signed with the Oil because he couldn't pass up the chance to play with a generational star like McJesus. He wanted a chance for another ring and the Oil was definitely not in rebuilding mode.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Todd Bersnoozi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 11:28 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:08 pm

I already explained the rebuild-capspace logic, so sorry you missed it my dear friend...
It has been explained to u b4 that there are much cheaper alternatives with way shorter term (1-2 years) in finding a mentor to a young team, sorry u missed it buddy...
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Well your rebuilding Vancouver Canucks did just that!

Along with other rebuilding teams, some of which were pointed out by my good buddy the Dude.

Who's "wrong" Todd? :wink:
U fail to understand that the Canucks were not thinking rebuild when they signed Loui. Sorry, u can't seem to grasp that. Even your genius never used the word rebuild, it was always "retool on the fly".

Strangelove wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 2:28 pm
Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:01 am
He's a decent player I guess, but the term is definitely too long. I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year deal, maybe 4
I think we'll get decent years out of him maybe 3 out of the 6 years.
Seeing as how you're bragging about that post, one can only assume you feel Loui has been worth every penny thus far

In the first highlighted sentence you clearly stated "maybe 4 years".

I'm wondering why you deleted those first two sentences in this response.

I'm racking my brain trying to figure that out, "WHY" I'm asking myself, "WHY".
OK, I think once again u fucked up and conveniently misquoted me (not the 1st time). Let's simply look back @ what I wrote.
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Fri Jul 01, 2016 5:12 pm
Yeah, I'm not very thrilled with the Eriksson signing. He's a decent player I guess, but the term is definitely too long. I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year deal, maybe 4, but no way to 6. I guess that's the market rate for that kind of player. Yikes, he pretty much making Sedin dollars. I was impressed with JB when he showed prudence by refusing to give Iginla and Verby 3 year deals, now he gives a player of similar age/ilk 6 years. Ouchies! Sure, I get that he might be great with Sedins, but what about after? I think we'll get decent years out of him maybe 3 out of the 6 years.
http://canuckscorner.com/forums/viewtop ... on#p261925

So yeah, maybe a 4 year deal similar to what Brouwer got, but no way to 6 years for Loui

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by SKYO » Sun Jan 14, 2018 12:59 am

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by micky107 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:30 am

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:49 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 pm
Madcombinepilot wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:21 pm
Hockey Widow wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:35 pm
With Sutter back Goldobin has been returned to Utica.
Is Chaput still here?

I think so. He's not listed on the Comet's but Goldobin is so I assume it means we still have Chaput, as the 13 forward.

Neither Boucher or Goldobin really took advantage of the opportunities.Chaput is more a bottom 6.
Yeah.. Boucher has a great, heavy shot, but his release is to slow to translate to the show.. gobby just doesn't seem to have the drive.....
Yeah, agree. Seems eager enough when there's a goal to be scored but he's gotta figure out how much more he can do in all zones to get it to that point. If he wants an NHL career, it's there for him but more effort needed.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by RoyalDude » Sun Jan 14, 2018 11:05 am

Hey Bersnooz, the July those free agents signed came 10 days after the 2016 draft where the Oilers drafted 4th, the flames drafted 5th. Not rebuilding teams? The Oilers drafted 1st overall the previous draft not to mention their decade long rebuild. Flames drafted 6th in Horvats draft, 4th in Virtanens draft, not rebuilding? Bruins sold Lucic and Hamilton for draft picks at the 2015 draft to kick start a rebuild. The only argument you can make for is the Islanders and Red wings but let's face it both those teams have been rebuilding on the fly for awhile. None of them are/were cup contending teams selling prospects to win now hence the Griffin Reinhart trade for picks. Islanders traded Hamonic for a 1st round pick and a 2nd round pick. If they are not rebuilding shouldn't have they traded Reinhart and Hamonic for NHL veterans instead of draft picks?
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm

Curious note: Carol Schram noted that Trymakin, recently, changed the header on his twitter account back to him in a Canuck's jersey! A sign I say, a sign!!
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:33 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:20 pm
Curious note: Carol Schram noted that Trymakin, recently, changed the header on his twitter account back to him in a Canuck's jersey! A sign I say, a sign!!
That's what I look for on this board: not just blind hope, but reasons to hope. Thank you.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Post by micky107 » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:49 pm

Ronning's Ghost wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:33 pm
That's what I look for on this board: not just blind hope, but reasons to hope. Thank you.
micky107 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:15 am
Quite frankly, Tryamkin's agent, unless he is on some sort of weird patriotic agenda, should be telling him to cash in on the Canucks for next year.
Your numbers are great. Your health is good. The team is desperate for what you can bring.
Every year you wait now, intangibles could change everything.
Is this wrong?
This is what I posted on another thread on Wednesday.
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