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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby rats19 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:01 am

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Cornuck wrote:Notes from the Sedins:
https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/dear-v ... -290849006


I'm a bit surprised the Sedins gave Anson Carter so much credit. Trent Klatt played a similar game by going into tuff areas to score, but guess he wasn't skilled enuff. *hehe* Looking back, Nonis probably should have brought Carter back with a low ball offer after Carter failed in Columbus/Carolina.

Speaking of Carter, I think Vanek can be a Carter 2.0 for us. A big guy who can play that Sedin cycle game with soft hands around the net. :P

My recollection of carter was .... that fucker can't even skate...lol
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Linc » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:24 am

I think other teams felt he couldn't skate as well and focused more of their attention on the Sedins. With the Sedins, Carter was great at floating around unnoticed and then being in the right space at the right time.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Jovocop » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:27 am

micky107 wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:It is a showcase event. The teams are expected to take competitive squads with them. I imagine the team that is papered to be our opening roster will attend while a number of bubble players will get a ton of exhibition games back home.

As well as the company perk part :mrgreen:


Let's just hope Jim has talked to Rob about not portraying scenes out of "Slapshot" because Mr. Blake could be a
pretty intimidating sort, if I recall..
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LOL, Blake loses to Ruutu


Speaking of Ruutu, the Canucks could use a guy like him now. :mrgreen:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby micky107 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:50 am

Ya! Your right. 8-)
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Topper » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:36 am

Linc wrote:I think other teams felt he couldn't skate as well and focused more of their attention on the Sedins. With the Sedins, Carter was great at floating around unnoticed and then being in the right space at the right time.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Topper » Wed Sep 13, 2017 10:48 am

Cornuck wrote:Notes from the Sedins:
https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/dear-v ... -290849006

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:03 am

During the meet the press yesterday Hank, I think, could have been Dank, was asked if they had given any thought for a fair well type of tour and whether they were going to do that this year. Hank, I'll stick with Hank, laughed and said he hadn't heard that one before and no it wasn't in their minds and he hoped that was still a few years away since they were only 36 not 46. Or words to that effect.

Translation: they will be back on yearly contracts until THEY feel done.

So no more talk about trading them and no more talk about retirement this year. We're still transitioning :mrgreen:
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby UWSaint » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:45 pm

Linc wrote:I think other teams felt he couldn't skate as well and focused more of their attention on the Sedins. With the Sedins, Carter was great at floating around unnoticed and then being in the right space at the right time.


Other teams did not "forget" about Anson Carter, but he was great at getting to open spaces in scoring areas. And that's different than crashing the net, which Klatt and King did, though the former is not mutually exclusive of the latter.

At the end of the day, though, Dank and Hank didn't become strong on the puck until that post-lockout season. (Consider that when projecting Petterson -- that was the Sedins Age 24 season.) Carter benefited from that development, which led to a higher quality and quantity of possession, and for the Sedins to credit Carter for a production jump that was due to their development and not really their linemate is typical Sedin modesty.

They made their big skill jump earlier: 2003-2004 (playing with King, then Arvedson, and then usually Linden, IIRC). At that point, the occasional flashes of brilliance from their first three campaigns became a regular thing. Every night you'd see them try something new, something that most other players couldn't do.

The final leap (after they added strength to skill) was a couple years later, when they developed the ability to be dangerous off the rush. They were never fast (though their speed improved), but they became pretty adept at more quickly and effectively exploiting defensive breakdowns with mini-rushes. Urgency is the best word to describe the last attribute they obtained which finally made them elite offensive players.

Now we've seen a decline in speed, a decline in skill (even at the fundamentals -- passes are less sharp in giving and receiving), and less benefit from the strength (because they are less likely to have full control). They are no longer elite; they are no longer very good. But they remain good, and as long as they remain good, I am perfectly fine with them on the team.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby SKYO » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:17 pm

Sedins turning 37 in 13 days - Sept 26.

$2M a piece for the mega twins 2018/19 season, due to their slower skating speed & lack of mass ala Jagr, they probably only go to 38, which is a nice age for em, gives em couple years to play in Modo if they choose to.

Be awesome to see the Sedins play one season with Dahlen-Pettersson. :o
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby SKYO » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:23 pm

Training camp notes:

Sedins with Goldy on a line.
Burmistrov between Vanek and Eriksson

Virtanen coming into camp at a respectable 215lbs, one of the few Canucks with some mass, could bode well for him if he utilize that size, as the team is pretty Trevor Linden/Brandon Sutter skinny.
He was one of the first on the ice this morning.

Henrik saying the skating in practise by Green is like the days of old 15+ years ago, hard working practice.

"That was tough, it's the way camp was 15-20 years ago. Coach wanted a really good pace and guys were ready. It's refreshing." -- Henrik
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Strangelove » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:11 pm

UWSaint wrote:Other teams did not "forget" about Anson Carter, but he was great at getting to open spaces in scoring areas. And that's different than crashing the net, which Klatt and King did, though the former is not mutually exclusive of the latter.

At the end of the day, though, Dank and Hank didn't become strong on the puck until that post-lockout season. (Consider that when projecting Petterson -- that was the Sedins Age 24 season.) Carter benefited from that development, which led to a higher quality and quantity of possession, and for the Sedins to credit Carter for a production jump that was due to their development and not really their linemate is typical Sedin modesty.

They made their big skill jump earlier: 2003-2004 (playing with King, then Arvedson, and then usually Linden, IIRC). At that point, the occasional flashes of brilliance from their first three campaigns became a regular thing. Every night you'd see them try something new, something that most other players couldn't do.

The final leap (after they added strength to skill) was a couple years later, when they developed the ability to be dangerous off the rush. They were never fast (though their speed improved), but they became pretty adept at more quickly and effectively exploiting defensive breakdowns with mini-rushes. Urgency is the best word to describe the last attribute they obtained which finally made them elite offensive players.

Now we've seen a decline in speed, a decline in skill (even at the fundamentals -- passes are less sharp in giving and receiving), and less benefit from the strength (because they are less likely to have full control). They are no longer elite; they are no longer very good. But they remain good, and as long as they remain good, I am perfectly fine with them on the team.


This is truly a great post, very accurate in my opinion...
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Strangelove » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:13 pm

SKYO wrote:Training camp notes:

Sedins with Goldy on a line.
Burmistrov between Vanek and Eriksson

Virtanen coming into camp at a respectable 215lbs, one of the few Canucks with some mass, could bode well for him if he utilize that size, as the team is pretty Trevor Linden/Brandon Sutter skinny.
He was one of the first on the ice this morning.

Henrik saying the skating in practise by Green is like the days of old 15+ years ago, hard working practice.

"That was tough, it's the way camp was 15-20 years ago. Coach wanted a really good pace and guys were ready. It's refreshing." -- Henrik


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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 6:56 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:#Canucks have released Aaron Berisha, Matt Barberis, Johny Corneil and Aaron Luchuk from tryout.

I liked Luchuk and thought he had a shot a a contract with Utica. Could still happen I guess. Didn't notice the other three at all really.


So is Aaron Irving still around ? I liked the little I saw of him and I hope they invite him to main camp. He did get nicked up in one of the games though .... maybe just waiting to cut him when he heels up
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby Hockey Widow » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:24 pm

Apparently Subban and Boucher were gassed today at their practice. Subban was bent over sucking air and Boucher was lapped a couple of times by Stetcher. :oops:

How do you spell waived, in Boucher's case and demoted in Subban's?

Gotta figure for bubble players they would show up prepared.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2017-2018

Postby RoyalDude » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:30 pm

Jordan Subban look for Steve Kariya cause that's where you're going

Boucher looks like a party animal
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