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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Reefer2 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 7:02 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Edmonton
Calgary
Anaheim
L.A.
San Jose
Phoenix
Vancouver
Vegas

Not sure if one or no wild cards come out of this division.... San Jose and LA should be a good battle for 7/8 in the conference.If every thing breaks wrong for the Canucks and Green gets them buying in they could vault Phoenix. I'd personally prefer the the draft pick but that's just me.


But Blob, we are supposed to have a winning culture and picking 12th is much better than having any chance at a top 5 pick.

BUT - I do think the FA pick ups this year will make the team better, playoff bound better, no, but better than 29th overall. It comes down to how they play in their own end, if they go trap then they will squeak out more wins but man will the games be boring.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby micky107 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:35 am

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Anaheim
Calgary
San Jose
Vegas :shock:
L.A.
Phoenix
Colorado

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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby herb » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:08 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Edmonton
Calgary
Anaheim
L.A.
San Jose
Phoenix
Vancouver
Vegas

Not sure if one or no wild cards come out of this division.... San Jose and LA should be a good battle for 7/8 in the conference.If every thing breaks wrong for the Canucks and Green gets them buying in they could vault Phoenix. I'd personally prefer the the draft pick but that's just me.


Pretty much agree Blob, but I think Vancouver finishes ahead of Phoenix.

I think the Canucks improve simply because Horvat, Baertschi, Granlund, Stecher, Hutton, Boeser, Gaunce and Boucher are on the upswing. Some of these young guys are bound to get much better, simply on odds alone. I'm worried about our goaltending, but if we have any luck with health, an 85 point season wouldn't surprise me. Problem is, the Pacific Division is so deep and talented, that those 26 or whatever it is games we play vs Pacific teams are tough, tough games for us. The Alberta and California road trips are going to be tough to watch.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:08 am

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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:13 am

herb wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Edmonton
Calgary
Anaheim
L.A.
San Jose
Phoenix
Vancouver
Vegas

Not sure if one or no wild cards come out of this division.... San Jose and LA should be a good battle for 7/8 in the conference.If every thing breaks wrong for the Canucks and Green gets them buying in they could vault Phoenix. I'd personally prefer the the draft pick but that's just me.


Pretty much agree Blob, but I think Vancouver finishes ahead of Phoenix.

I think the Canucks improve simply because Horvat, Baertschi, Granlund, Stecher, Hutton, Boeser, Gaunce and Boucher are on the upswing. Some of these young guys are bound to get much better, simply on odds alone. I'm worried about our goaltending, but if we have any luck with health, an 85 point season wouldn't surprise me. Problem is, the Pacific Division is so deep and talented, that those 26 or whatever it is games we play vs Pacific teams are tough, tough games for us. The Alberta and California road trips are going to be tough to watch.


Yeah I figure about 80 points is a good guesstimate. Bottom 6 -7 or so finish.

As an aside do you see room for all of Baertschi, Granlund, Boucher, Boeser, Rodin ? Eriksson and Danny have spots locked up. One of Sutter or Gagner will play the wing. Add in Burmistrov. That's nine pretty fluffy players up front. Dorset and his 190 pounds with a bad neck going to do all the forechecking and hitting ?
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby SKYO » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:36 am

For one season I'd like to see the Canucks play at least 90% healthy and not almost lead the league in man games lost to injury.

End of 2016-17 Regular Season NHL Injury Data Summary: The Vancouver Canucks and Winnipeg Jets had the most man-games lost in the NHL.


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Which is why it's a good problem having decent players battle it out for limited positions, as eventually every player besides megna/chaput should get into the lineup sooner or later, those guys to their credit are hard workers, but they are AHL'ers & should only get about 5-10 games at best in the NHL for injuries.

Megna, skille, chaput all got over 50 games each last season, sometimes even getting top 6 spots :o , I'm hoping those games will be swooped up by Rodin, Boucher and Virtanen when injuries hit this upcoming season.

Green is going to have be creative to find some chemistry in the lineup, gotta jump start Eriksson somehow to make use of his skillset and his highly paid contract, he's capable of scoring 25-30 goals, but he needs to find a playmaker to use, plus Newell Brown to view Eriksson's success on the powerplay with the Bruins.

- Depending on health this should be a pretty competitive camp in september.

- Hoping we get a couple surprise players breakout

- Hutton and Stecher to gain confidence for point producing. (really want a Hutton - Tanev corsi dominate combo, replicating that Team Canada - Reilly - Tanev dominate pairing)

- Boeser for a full season!

- Maybe the russians create chemistry? Burmistrov/Goldy.

- Gagner/Eriksson chemistry?

- top 6 D stay healthy for once? MDZ is limited to 60 games seems like, so lucky he's in a depth position.
- Gudbranson should have a determined strong season to be another leader on the rebuilding squad.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Uncle dans leg » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:44 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:That's nine pretty fluffy players up front.

No doubt eh. Fuck around the canucks are gonna get bitch slapped hard all season unless they sort that out
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Cornuck » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:48 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:That's nine pretty fluffy players up front.

No doubt eh. Fuck around the canucks are gonna get bitch slapped hard all season unless they sort that out


Bullshit - it's the Sedin's last season and they aren't going to take any crap - they'll be dishing out the hits and cheap shots! Payback time! :D
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby micky107 » Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:54 am

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Put down the toluene soaked rag Mickey


The post is just to prove a point and yank some chains.
The Pacific is unpredictable and anything can happen in the top five spots.
What I do know for sure is that the AVs are in real big shit and the Kings days or over.
Don't see the Dogs improving much and I think, barring injury to a certain player, the Oilers will just out score
their opps. After that, ???????????????
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby herb » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:01 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
herb wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Edmonton
Calgary
Anaheim
L.A.
San Jose
Phoenix
Vancouver
Vegas

Not sure if one or no wild cards come out of this division.... San Jose and LA should be a good battle for 7/8 in the conference.If every thing breaks wrong for the Canucks and Green gets them buying in they could vault Phoenix. I'd personally prefer the the draft pick but that's just me.


Pretty much agree Blob, but I think Vancouver finishes ahead of Phoenix.

I think the Canucks improve simply because Horvat, Baertschi, Granlund, Stecher, Hutton, Boeser, Gaunce and Boucher are on the upswing. Some of these young guys are bound to get much better, simply on odds alone. I'm worried about our goaltending, but if we have any luck with health, an 85 point season wouldn't surprise me. Problem is, the Pacific Division is so deep and talented, that those 26 or whatever it is games we play vs Pacific teams are tough, tough games for us. The Alberta and California road trips are going to be tough to watch.


Yeah I figure about 80 points is a good guesstimate. Bottom 6 -7 or so finish.

As an aside do you see room for all of Baertschi, Granlund, Boucher, Boeser, Rodin ? Eriksson and Danny have spots locked up. One of Sutter or Gagner will play the wing. Add in Burmistrov. That's nine pretty fluffy players up front. Dorset and his 190 pounds with a bad neck going to do all the forechecking and hitting ?


Well, Boucher, Boeser, Burmistrov and Rodin have to make the team. Honestly, I have no idea how the forwards shake out the way things stand now. D and goalies are set, but forwards really are quite the mish mash. I wouldn't be surprised to see any of Boucher, Boeser, Burmistrov, Rodin, Gaunce, Chaput, Virtanen or Megna sent down or make the team out of camp. Training camp should be interesting. Lots of competition, which is good.

If I hazarded a guess, I'd say we break camp looking something like:

Granlund-Horvat-Baertschi
Sedin-Sedin-Eriksson
Gagner-Sutter-Boeser
Burmistrov-Gaunce-Dorsett

Will Dorsett even be healthy? Who knows. What about Virtanen?

We're definitely not a crash and bang team as things stand now. Horvat, Gaunce and Boeser have good size, but I'd love some more grit. Honestly, if our young guys have good years, it will be hard to rationalize re-signing the Sedins. Horvat should become the clear #1C this season. Gaunce has lots of room to improve. I guess the hope is that the twins do get pushed out.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby SKYO » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:04 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:That's nine pretty fluffy players up front.

No doubt eh. Fuck around the canucks are gonna get bitch slapped hard all season unless they sort that out

Meh, I'd rather have skilled players than megna's, chaput's and sestito's etc.

We build up the skilled homies with potential to increase trade value so you can trade em down the road for a couple bigger players if need be.

Plus last I checked the pens and blackhawks aren't exactly the big bad bruins, & one of the biggest teams in the league the LA Kings in their prime were good, but are now old and slow + overpaid.

Skill >>> meat heads.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Topper » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:06 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Put down the toluene soaked rag Mickey

Bubbles worst advice yet.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:17 pm

SKYO wrote:
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:That's nine pretty fluffy players up front.

No doubt eh. Fuck around the canucks are gonna get bitch slapped hard all season unless they sort that out

Meh, I'd rather have skilled players than megna's, chaput's and sestito's etc.

We build up the skilled homies with potential to increase trade value so you can trade em down the road for a couple bigger players if need be.

Plus last I checked the pens and blackhawks aren't exactly the big bad bruins, & one of the biggest teams in the league the LA Kings in their prime were good, but are now old and slow + overpaid.

Skill >>> meat heads.

Because that's what I said right Skyo ? I said I want more Megna and Chaput and especially Sestito type players.
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:18 pm

Topper wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Put down the toluene soaked rag Mickey

Bubbles worst advice yet.


I wonder if he drinks the thinner or huffs it
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Re: 2017/18 Pacific Division

Postby ESQ » Wed Jul 12, 2017 12:20 pm

I think the Canucks will be Most Improved in the Pacific - i.e. the biggest increase in wins.
Uncle dans leg wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:That's nine pretty fluffy players up front.

No doubt eh. Fuck around the canucks are gonna get bitch slapped hard all season unless they sort that out

Possibly they'll also be Most Sportsmanlike in the Pac. :lol:
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