The Rebuild...

[Chef Boi RD]

Benning has to go out and get a Bourque, Orr, Potvin or Lidstrom! If Elmer can't do something that simple, he needs to go.

[DonCherry4PM]

It is our D that concerns me, we need a 40ish point guy who can get 15 goals.

LOL
Last season there were twenty three 40+ point defensmen in the NHL. Four of those 23 had 15+ goals (Burns, Hedman, Karlsson, Shea Weber). Faulk and Ellis were the only other 15+ goal scoring defenders but they fell short of your 40 point threshold.

If JB actually is the genius the cultists keep raving about, such a feat should be easily attainable for him. Or can't he pick "generational" defensemen to go along with his "generational" forwards?

Just that easy folks - Shell Bussy

Listen, Gillis should not have traded the 10th overall pick for a cokehead in the minors. He should have instead drafted Erik Karlsson! There's your 15 goal, 40 point Norris Trophy!

Agreed, but has anyone claimed Gillis to be a genuis?

[Tciso]

Benning has to go out and get a Bourque, Orr, Potvin or Lidstrom! If Elmer can't do something that simple, he needs to go.

So, you are saying we need a generational player, or at least the best in their position player, and getting them is simple. Peter Chiarelli/Lou Lamoriello simple, eh Dude???

By the way, who in the league fits that description you gave above?

[Chef Boi RD]

Benning has to go out and get a Bourque, Orr, Potvin or Lidstrom! If Elmer can't do something that simple, he needs to go.

So, you are saying we need a generational player, or at least the best in their position player, and getting them is simple. Peter Chiarelli/Lou Lamoriello simple, eh Dude???

By the way, who in the league fits that description you gave above?

Apparently - "it's just that easy, folks!"

[Topper]

The JuJu man was drafted by a the Genius.

[Tciso]

Benning has to go out and get a Bourque, Orr, Potvin or Lidstrom! If Elmer can't do something that simple, he needs to go.

So, you are saying we need a generational player, or at least the best in their position player, and getting them is simple. Peter Chiarelli/Lou Lamoriello simple, eh Dude???

By the way, who in the league fits that description you gave above?

Apparently - "it's just that easy, folks!"

Shel, is that you???

[ESQ]

Throughout most of the Crawford/Vigneault eras, the Canucks consistently had at least one defenceman over 40 points, and 2-3 in the mid-30s. From 01/02 to 13/14, there was only one season without a 40+ point Dman.

Under 3 years of Willie, the best output was Edler's 31 points in 14/15 (I believe he had a red-hot streak to end the season), since then nobody's cracked 25 points - and it doesn't look like any blueliner on this year's squad will either.

After AV's first season in NY, he's had a 40+ point dman and 2-3 in the mid-30s each of the past 3 seasons.

I wouldn't be able to put my finger on it, but I suspect its as much a systems issue as a skills issue, remembering those seasons where Sopel got 42 points and Baumgartner got 34 points under Crow...

[Mickey107]

Benning has to go out and get a Bourque, Orr, Potvin or Lidstrom! If Elmer can't do something that simple, he needs to go.

So, you are saying we need a generational player, or at least the best in their position player, and getting them is simple. Peter Chiarelli/Lou Lamoriello simple, eh Dude???

By the way, who in the league fits that description you gave above?

Apparently - "it's just that easy, folks!"

Good sarcasm! You forgot the Coffee,
Seriously though, we don't need to get into any Karlsson sweepstakes.
Seabrook? Unthinkable.

[ukcanuck]

The JuJu man was drafted by a the Genius.

Was going to say perhaps Juolevi will be that guy for us ?

Seems like an offensive defensemen to me

[Blob Mckenzie]

Throughout most of the Crawford/Vigneault eras, the Canucks consistently had at least one defenceman over 40 points, and 2-3 in the mid-30s. From 01/02 to 13/14, there was only one season without a 40+ point Dman.

Under 3 years of Willie, the best output was Edler's 31 points in 14/15 (I believe he had a red-hot streak to end the season), since then nobody's cracked 25 points - and it doesn't look like any blueliner on this year's squad will either.

After AV's first season in NY, he's had a 40+ point dman and 2-3 in the mid-30s each of the past 3 seasons.

I wouldn't be able to put my finger on it, but I suspect its as much a systems issue as a skills issue, remembering those seasons where Sopel got 42 points and Baumgartner got 34 points under Crow...

It’s definitely more a skill issue. Ohlund, Ehrhoff, Bieksa, Hamhuis, Young Edler, Jovo, Sopel >>>>>>> Pouliot, Hutton, Stecher, Old Edler, Gudbranson, and the army of slugs Elmer has brought in.

[Blob Mckenzie]

The JuJu man was drafted by a the Genius.

Was going to say perhaps Juolevi will be that guy for us ?

Seems like an offensive defensemen to me

He might be. I don’t think he is going to be a true quarterback type guy , more of an all situations type who moves the puck well and plays on one of the pp units. Either way he is one guy but in today’s NHL the good teams have most of all or their d men able to jump up into the rush and play good D. This ass end needs a major overhaul. Have a look at the guys Nashville can throw out there for 3/4 of the game or Tampa Bay.

[Chef Boi RD]

Juolevi and Tryamkin ( when he returns and you know he will) is a good start, just need to keep chipping away at it. Brisebios is spreading his wings, I like this Chatfield.

The Avalanche managed to shore up there future D in short order by drafting Makar and Timmins last draft and traded for Girard. JimBro has the ability to shore up the D future, he's done some fine work in the forward position. Onwards and upwards - JimBro Benning

[Blob Mckenzie]

We absolutely DON’T know if Tryamkin will return. Chatfield is soon to be 22 and has a meagre 4 assists in 32 games in Utica. Elmer has traded away basically an entire round of draft picks for Pedan, Pouliot, Larsen and Gudbranson. There’s a decent chance none of those guys are with the organization next season. Forsling was inexplicably given away for Clendenning. So you have elderly prospect Mcaneny and butter soft no offence Brisebois in the system and that’s it. The D is a mess.

[Mickey107]

Quite frankly, Tryamkin's agent, unless he is on some sort of weird patriotic agenda, should be telling him to cash in on the Canucks for next year.
Your numbers are great. Your health is good. The team is desperate for what you can bring.
Every year you wait now, intangibles could change everything.
Is this wrong?

[Strangelove]

Just that easy folks - Shell Bussy

Listen, Gillis should not have traded the 10th overall pick for a cokehead in the minors. He should have instead drafted Erik Karlsson! There's your 15 goal, 40 point Norris Trophy!

Agreed, but has anyone claimed Gillis to be a genuis?

It happened more than you think.

I just perused the archives but I hesitate to post the quotes.

Off-topic no?