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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Aaronp18 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:45 pm

Meds wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:49 pm
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I see a young Aquillini in there.
And a young Benning.
As a Dressing Room Attendant :lol:

And the other one of several Amateur Scouts.

I would bet most organizations follow this narrative.

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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by herb » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:58 pm

Christian Aquilini is a young man with autism ya putzes...

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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Aaronp18 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:21 pm

herb wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:58 pm
Christian Aquilini is a young man with autism ya putzes...
Which is why he's the Dressing Room Attendant!

The kid is picking up tape balls and helping as much as he can.

But he's an Aquilini so there's a conspiracy! Some sort of dressing room insider :roll:

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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by CrzyCanuck » Tue Apr 03, 2018 4:08 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:21 pm
herb wrote:
Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:58 pm
Christian Aquilini is a young man with autism ya putzes...
Which is why he's the Dressing Room Attendant!

The kid is picking up tape balls and helping as much as he can.

But he's an Aquilini so there's a conspiracy! Some sort of dressing room insider :roll:

Some media would say he's making the calls
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by BladesofSteel » Thu Apr 05, 2018 6:57 pm

Brian Burke on line 1.

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Re: The Rebuild...FIX the DEFENSE

Post by SKYO » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:09 pm

It's clear you need a strong center core and some game breaking wingers, depth etc, but forgetting about the forwards for once,

looking at the main top 6 defense on the past 5 Stanley Cup teams:

2017: pens D
Letang(INJ), Schultz (took lead), Maatta, Dumoulin, Cole, Daley, Hainsey.

2016: pens D
Letang (lead), Cole, Maatta, Daley, Dumoulin, Lovejoy, Schultz-wasn't used much that playoffs.

2015: blackhawks D
Keith (lead), Seabrook (dominate), Hjalmarsson, Oduya, Timonen, then split duties with Cumiskey/Rozsival/Rundblad.

2014: kings D
Doughty (lead), Martinez, Muzzin, Voynov, Greene, Mitchell. split duties Regehr/J.Schultz

2013: blackhawks D
Keith (lead), only Oduya provided some offense on D, Seabrook meh but two GWG and was a true leader for the team, Hjalmarsson, Leddy, Rozsival, all that top six D was healthy all through the playoffs.

So to break it down to create a sort of template of a Stanley Cup defense, you got the main #1 dman, a 2nd dman who can score, a couple two-way dmen and a couple defensive dmen.


Canucks in it's entire franchise history has not had that elusive #1 dman, nor a #1 OA draft pick.

Our current defense corps: Edler, Tanev, MDZ, Gudbranson, Stecher, Pouliot, Hutton, Biega, Sautner, Juolevi, Chatfield, Brisebois,

You can bash these comparison's to the Cup defense groups above all you want, but I think it's a semi fair comparison & a hope for the best look at it.

No clear number one dman lead, no backup scoring dman (the closest is Pouliot who could = Martinez) Pouliot this is his first real full NHL season.

But we got the two-way dmen in Edler = Seabrook and probably Juolevi could = Maatta or Muzzin.

And defensive dmen in Tanev = Hjalmarsson, plus Gudbranson = Willie Mitchell.

The alright dmen, but not dominating anything: MDZ=could be like Trevor Daley, and then there's Hutton and Stecher (one could breakout in the right situation).
Unknown: Sautner, Chatfield, Brisebois.


So in the perfect world using my template above for a Stanley Cup defense, we'd have:

#1 DMAN - Tanev
Edler - Pouliot
MDZ/Juolevi - Gudbranson
(reliable depth)

Meaning I'd gladly move out MDZ, Hutton and Stecher for picks/prospects/hockey deals, plus combine em with a few forwards that need to move to make roster space for the youth.

Now how the Canucks get that #1 DMAN is the million dollar question, ideally he'd be drafted just like the Pens with 6'0-201lbs Letang at #62 overall, Blackhawks with 6'1-192lbs Keith at #54 overall, and the Kings with 6'1-195lbs Doughty at #2 overall.


I think this team is primed for a blockbuster deal to move a massive amount of players like the Jets-Sabres deal awhile ago.

And you seen the Jets & Bruins they have a blend of vets and youth and everyone loves their teams retool/build/rebuild whatever.
Jets have big Byfuglien and Myers and the Bruins with 100 year old Chara, McAvoy and Krug.

So if you can't get that elusive #1 dman, you go with size and skill mix, why I'd look to get Bouchard this draft if you are outside the top 3.
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:24 pm

Skyo,Pouliott is barely good enough to play in the league. He sure as fuck isn’t a top 4 guy. And he’s nowhere near the quality of Martinez. They have two legit top 4 guys and one is old and the other one is constantly injured.
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by SKYO » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:42 pm

Derrick Pouliot, like him or not, he's done better than both Hutton and Stecher, plus even with the least amount of minutes on D he still was tied for 2nd on the team's defense in points, and every one of his goals are GWG! booya! mr clutch.

Edler - 70gp, 6g, 28a, 34pts, 24:16min TOI
Pouliot - 71gp, 3g, 19a, 22pts, 17:51min TOI
MDZ - 82gp, 6g, 16a, 22pts, 20:48min TOI
Tanev - 42gp, 2g, 9a, 11pts, 19:46min TOI
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Strangelove » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:51 pm

Win the draft lottery, sign Mike Green, then trade Edler + Tanev for Shea Weber.

Dahlin - Weber
Juolevi - Green
Del Zotto - Gudbranson


There, see how easy it is? :mex:
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by SKYO » Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:57 pm

Need a mafia man or a hacker to fix the lotto ball machine, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying'.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/joe- ... nt-trying/
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Cornuck » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:05 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 3:51 pm
Win the draft lottery, sign Mike Green, then trade Edler + Tanev for Shea Weber.

Dahlin - Weber
Juolevi - Green
Del Zotto - Gudbranson
There, see how easy it is? :mex:
A little early on a Sunday to hit the bottle, eh Doc? ;)

What if the Kings want to move some pieces? Do you go after Doughty to get that Number 1 D for Skyo? trade for a year or wait til he's UFA?
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Strangelove » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:54 pm

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Yeahno Corn, I don't want to enable Skyo in his wild 'n crazy schemes!


Dahlin - Weber
Juolevi - Green
Del Zotto - Gudbranson

:mex:
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Cornuck » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:57 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:54 pm
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Yeahno Corn, I don't want to enable Skyo in his wild 'n crazy schemes!


Dahlin - Weber
Juolevi - Green
Del Zotto - Gudbranson

:mex:
Oh right... I forgot you guys have 4/20 up there... I'll just skim posts for the next day or two. ;)
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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Strangelove » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:05 pm

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Re: The Rebuild...

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:49 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:54 pm

Dahlin - Weber
Juolevi - Green
Del Zotto - Gudbranson
I endorse this defensive lineup. You could be a Top Ten GM in the League. :lol:

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