The 2017 NHL Entry Draft

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Blob Mckenzie wrote: Constable Ann Drennan.
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bckev wrote:I don't think I would trade Tanev for first over all, I would want more. I think Sbisa is worth a first on his own.I agree I wouldn't offer much to sweeten the pot to move up. This draft is too volatile, there is a good chance that the best player of the draft may be taken in the second or third round. This is a draft with lots of players with upside, but they all come with blemishes. How well they are developed will be huge. I can see trading Tanev for an established player so you know what you have coming in. Nathan Mckinnon would work for me.

LOL is this guy the love child of Doc and Dude ?

Talk about overating Canucks players. Sbisa is worth a 5th rounder at best and Taney would do well to return a top 10 pick
You hear so many rumours, I have no idea what Tanev would fetch at this point in time. I doubt he would secure the 1st overall, no matter how weak the draft may be. However, based on the Larsson trade and others last year, I would say he is easily worth a top ten pick in weaker draft year.
As for Sbisa, I'm going to split the difference with you two. No way you get a first but he's also worth more than a fifth.
Even noted Canuck hater Mark Spector seems to agree:

"VEGAS PICK PROJECTION
Luca Sbisa, D
This is a tough choice, because there really isn’t a lot to pick from on a depleted Canucks roster. But Sbisa fits the bill as a player who can help Vegas through its maiden season, and then be turned over at the 2018 trade deadline to a contender seeking blue line depth. Have a good year in Vegas, and he might recycle into a second- or third-round draft pick. That thought process will be a big part of the Golden Knights’ protocol in this expansion draft."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/vanc ... t-preview/
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Rocky Dennis wrote: "VEGAS PICK PROJECTION
Luca Sbisa, D
This is a tough choice, because there really isn’t a lot to pick from on a depleted Canucks roster. But Sbisa fits the bill as a player who can help Vegas through its maiden season, and then be turned over at the 2018 trade deadline to a contender seeking blue line depth. Have a good year in Vegas, and he might recycle into a second- or third-round draft pick. That thought process will be a big part of the Golden Knights’ protocol in this expansion draft."

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/vanc ... t-preview/
Yeah a lot of mock drafts have Vegas picking Sbisa as he does hold trade value - more trade value than gaunce/pedan/boucher anyways, especially at the 2018 TDD a perfect depth dman for a contender.
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One of Vilardi, Heiskanen, Glass and Makar.

I'm pissed if Helmet Head Steve Drennan is the pick
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Penguins and the Blackhawks the modern cap gods of championships.

Now with the Leaves and Oilers about to take their place soon upon the upper echelon of teams, IF the Canucks want a championship within the next 10+ years, the team needs another top tier center to help big Bo Horvat asap.

Patrick or deal for S. Reinhart fits the mold, Benning do what you gotta do to make it happen.

As the recent champs prove all you need is a few QB's and some meh dmen to help your all-star centers.
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Blobbee didn't like William Nylander either, because of how he looked. Is Mittlestadt the next "should have ignored how silly he looks and drafted him?"
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RoyalDude wrote:Blobbee didn't like William Nylander either, because of how he looked. Is Mittlestadt the next "should have ignored how silly he looks and drafted him?"
That's a load of shit. I had no problem with Nylander
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It is getting near draft and I just spent an hour going over various mock drafts again. It would seem Vilardi is our best choice and after him the high schooler from Minn. Makar is tempting but we need size and skill up front rather than an uber QB for PP. Pittsburgh just won without their best D who was injured. An earlier comment on strength up the middle seems bang on. We got Horvat and I truly believe he would get the number one in this draft IF we were dumb enough to trade him.

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damonberryman wrote:It is getting near draft and I just spent an hour going over various mock drafts again.

It would seem Vilardi is our best choice and after him the high schooler from Minn. Makar is tempting but we need size and skill up front rather than an uber QB for PP. Pittsburgh just won without their best D who was injured. An earlier comment on strength up the middle seems bang on. We got Horvat and I truly believe he would get the number one in this draft IF we were dumb enough to trade him.

He was one thing the old GM got really right
Yes at number 5 Vilardi is the first choice, if he's not available take the talented Swede Pettersson.

But they might take Glass akin to taking Virtanen over Ehlers/Nylander.

2nd round - two of: Urho Vaakanainen, Filip Chytil, Henri Jokiharju, Bowers, Joni Ikonen
3rd round - Robin Salo
4th round - goalie time Cayden Primeau, if still around small fella Mason Shaw.
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For the second round I'd rather Benning take two of Shaw, Gadjovich, Brook or Salo. I don't think Salo will be available in the third round.
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Would be nice to pick up Gadjovich or Comtois in the second round. This team needs to stop targeting the 175 pound guys and load up on some beef.
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I'm with everyone that says we don't want smallish players. However, some of these kids are just that, kids! There are kids in the draft nearly a year apart in age, that year at 17-18 can make a massive difference.

This is where the research and interviews come in, what players are close to maturity and who is going to be able to put on 20-30 lbs of muscle?

It's great to grab an 18 year old who has a close to NHL physique but those are pretty few and far between. Instead look for the players who are dedicated, willing to put in the effort to gain muscle and work their ass off on their game.

We aren't going to get an NHL ready prospect unless we move up, so look for someone who is still filling out and will be ready in a year or more!
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I am hopeful that the Canucks are able to get Vilardi at 5. However, if he is gone by that point then it likely means that Makar or possibly Heiskenan are available at 5. A couple of rankings, Button for one, have Heiskenan going after Makar. I likely take Heiskenan at that point over Pettersson and see if I can deal with our center needs another way.
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