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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby RoyalDude » Sat May 20, 2017 8:29 am

The Province was pretty spot on with their top 10 list but with one massive stinky ass addition that does not belong whatsoever - Subban at 7. My gawd, man. Get that shit off the list. This is how the list should roll

1. Boeser
2. Juolevi
3. Demko
4. Gaudette
5. Dahlen
6. Goldobin
7. Virtanen
8. Brisebios
9. Lockwood
10. McEneny
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Iceman2014 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:54 am

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Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
SKYO wrote:Adam Gaudette has that goal scorers goal shot...ever lethal, & has some Datsyukian dangles a bit as well.


One thing I noticed after watching some Gaudette and Goldolbin highlights, they both seem to really luv to score. They do the fist pumping thing a lot. Hopefully it'll be something that carries over to the NHL lvl. :P Chances are Goldolbin will stick with us next season, I'd like to see him get some looks in the shootouts.


Yup they love to score just like that guy in my avi.

Gaudette I can't wait till he signs hopefully next year!

I'm hoping we acquire someone to play with Goldy like another Russian, how about we sign Yakupov for cheap? A one year $800k performance laden contract should suffice if the Blues let him walk.

Yakupov - Sutter - Goldy.

What do the Canucks have to lose? Team can afford to experiment at this point. & Yak would probably love to stick it to edmonton, so there's some motivation ha.


Yak is a waste of space. Maybe sign him to a 2 way deal and send him down. Sutter isn't a playmaker. Not sure how this would work, really...
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Iceman2014 » Sat May 20, 2017 8:57 am

RoyalDude wrote:The Province was pretty spot on with their top 10 list but with one massive stinky ass addition that does not belong whatsoever - Subban at 7. My gawd, man. Get that shit off the list. This is how the list should roll

1. Boeser
2. Juolevi
3. Demko
4. Gaudette
5. Dahlen
6. Goldobin
7. Virtanen
8. Brisebios
9. Lockwood
10. McEneny


Subban has never played an NHL regular season game and you've cast him off. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Kids. I think he might be a player and we should get some idea this season. Green used him a lot in Utica and if Benning has the balls to deal a couple D and get overpayments in return, then we might see Subban and Pedan stick at the NHL level.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby RoyalDude » Sat May 20, 2017 9:22 am

Iceman2014 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:The Province was pretty spot on with their top 10 list but with one massive stinky ass addition that does not belong whatsoever - Subban at 7. My gawd, man. Get that shit off the list. This is how the list should roll

1. Boeser
2. Juolevi
3. Demko
4. Gaudette
5. Dahlen
6. Goldobin
7. Virtanen
8. Brisebios
9. Lockwood
10. McEneny


Subban has never played an NHL regular season game and you've cast him off. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Kids. I think he might be a player and we should get some idea this season. Green used him a lot in Utica and if Benning has the balls to deal a couple D and get overpayments in return, then we might see Subban and Pedan stick at the NHL level.


We are on the PK in the defensive zone if we are 5 on 5 with Subban on the ice, it's just that simple
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Iceman2014 » Sat May 20, 2017 9:49 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Iceman2014 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:The Province was pretty spot on with their top 10 list but with one massive stinky ass addition that does not belong whatsoever - Subban at 7. My gawd, man. Get that shit off the list. This is how the list should roll

1. Boeser
2. Juolevi
3. Demko
4. Gaudette
5. Dahlen
6. Goldobin
7. Virtanen
8. Brisebios
9. Lockwood
10. McEneny


Subban has never played an NHL regular season game and you've cast him off. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Kids. I think he might be a player and we should get some idea this season. Green used him a lot in Utica and if Benning has the balls to deal a couple D and get overpayments in return, then we might see Subban and Pedan stick at the NHL level.


We are on the PK in the defensive zone if we are 5 on 5 with Subban on the ice, it's just that simple



And you know this because you've watched a ton of Comets games? I don't entirely disagree with you but Subban is developing and is still a prospect. I don't know if I've seen enough from Brisebois or McEneny to put them over Sub just yet. Sure, he has defensive issues and lapses at times but those can be corrected to a degree. His skill is too enticing to drop him out of the top 10 right now. However, if he can't up the D game soon then yes, he could be done.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Reefer2 » Sat May 20, 2017 9:51 am

Iceman2014 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
Iceman2014 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:The Province was pretty spot on with their top 10 list but with one massive stinky ass addition that does not belong whatsoever - Subban at 7. My gawd, man. Get that shit off the list. This is how the list should roll

1. Boeser
2. Juolevi
3. Demko
4. Gaudette
5. Dahlen
6. Goldobin
7. Virtanen
8. Brisebios
9. Lockwood
10. McEneny


Subban has never played an NHL regular season game and you've cast him off. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Kids. I think he might be a player and we should get some idea this season. Green used him a lot in Utica and if Benning has the balls to deal a couple D and get overpayments in return, then we might see Subban and Pedan stick at the NHL level.


We are on the PK in the defensive zone if we are 5 on 5 with Subban on the ice, it's just that simple



And you know this because you've watched a ton of Comets games? I don't entirely disagree with you but Subban is developing and is still a prospect. I don't know if I've seen enough from Brisebois or McEneny to put them over Sub just yet. Sure, he has defensive issues and lapses at times but those can be corrected to a degree. His skill is too enticing to drop him out of the top 10 right now. However, if he can't up the D game soon then yes, he could be done.


RD knows this because he reads the internet and watch a few highlights and the comes on here and pretends he knows what he is talking about. Then when something changes in 6 months his story changes.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby RoyalDude » Sat May 20, 2017 9:59 am

Reefer2 wrote:
Iceman2014 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
Iceman2014 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:The Province was pretty spot on with their top 10 list but with one massive stinky ass addition that does not belong whatsoever - Subban at 7. My gawd, man. Get that shit off the list. This is how the list should roll

1. Boeser
2. Juolevi
3. Demko
4. Gaudette
5. Dahlen
6. Goldobin
7. Virtanen
8. Brisebios
9. Lockwood
10. McEneny


Subban has never played an NHL regular season game and you've cast him off. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Kids. I think he might be a player and we should get some idea this season. Green used him a lot in Utica and if Benning has the balls to deal a couple D and get overpayments in return, then we might see Subban and Pedan stick at the NHL level.


We are on the PK in the defensive zone if we are 5 on 5 with Subban on the ice, it's just that simple



And you know this because you've watched a ton of Comets games? I don't entirely disagree with you but Subban is developing and is still a prospect. I don't know if I've seen enough from Brisebois or McEneny to put them over Sub just yet. Sure, he has defensive issues and lapses at times but those can be corrected to a degree. His skill is too enticing to drop him out of the top 10 right now. However, if he can't up the D game soon then yes, he could be done.


RD knows this because he reads the internet and watch a few highlights and the comes on here and pretends he knows what he is talking about. Then when something changes in 6 months his story changes.


So we should just ignore the general consensus and universal scouting reports on Subbans game? I'm just making this stuff up? Cool beans, from now on when I see the name on the back of his jersey, like you I will just imagine he's the PK Subban - smurf version. Shit we should have drafted Keith Gretzky
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sat May 20, 2017 10:01 am

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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Reefer2 » Sat May 20, 2017 10:41 am

RoyalDude wrote:

So we should just ignore the general consensus and universal scouting reports on Subbans game? I'm just making this stuff up? Cool beans, from now on when I see the name on the back of his jersey, like you I will just imagine he's the PK Subban - smurf version. Shit we should have drafted Keith Gretzky


The difference RD is that I DON"T know anything about any prospect, I DON'T watch a few minutes of highlights read something a TV talking head says and then pretend to sound like I know what I am talking about.

You say a guy cant skate? Really and your a power skating coach?

Wasn't the talk around here was that Horvat couldn't skate? Not saying you wrote anything like that but as we can see from the past season Horvat can skate just fine thank you.

The NHL has many short D that play well and long careers, the NHL has many top 5 picks that have less than a 100 games in their NHL career. Just saying something based upon people whose job is to create clicks to their site is kinda useless. If you saw 5 - 6 games live then I would listen to that person more.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby RoyalDude » Sat May 20, 2017 11:00 am

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RoyalDude wrote:

So we should just ignore the general consensus and universal scouting reports on Subbans game? I'm just making this stuff up? Cool beans, from now on when I see the name on the back of his jersey, like you I will just imagine he's the PK Subban - smurf version. Shit we should have drafted Keith Gretzky


The difference RD is that I DON"T know anything about any prospect, I DON'T watch a few minutes of highlights read something a TV talking head says and then pretend to sound like I know what I am talking about.

You say a guy cant skate? Really and your a power skating coach?

Wasn't the talk around here was that Horvat couldn't skate? Not saying you wrote anything like that but as we can see from the past season Horvat can skate just fine thank you.

The NHL has many short D that play well and long careers, the NHL has many top 5 picks that have less than a 100 games in their NHL career. Just saying something based upon people whose job is to create clicks to their site is kinda useless. If you saw 5 - 6 games live then I would listen to that person more.


So if I understand correctly, if I witness 5-6 smurf Subban games you would then trust every scouts current opinion on smurf Subban, which is no different from what I am saying about him now? It's basically you and Iceman against what everyone is saying about him, but if I saw 5-6 games you would then join the general consensus group?
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby SKYO » Sat May 20, 2017 1:53 pm

Jordan Subban is getting a lot of attention lately, I guess scoring 72 points in two years will help your cause, plus Ryan Ellis killin' it in the playoffs vs some big heavy teams.

And when the mighty Elliotte Friedman's first paragraph in his 30 thoughts, Subban is definitely getting some focus.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-t ... ring-help/

Elliotte Friedman May 16, 2017, 10:02 AM

Jordan Subban packed his suitcase as we spoke, getting ready for a short trip.

Destination: Nashville.

There’s one obvious reason to travel to Tennessee: moral support for brother P.K. as the Western Conference Final resumes Tuesday night. But there’s another more subtle opportunity: the chance to watch Ryan Ellis live and in-person.

A couple of weeks ago, P.K. Subban told reporters he’d advised Jordan to study Ellis’s game. And, as Jordan revealed Monday, one other important figure made the same suggestion.

“In my exit interview [at AHL Utica], Travis Green told me, ‘That’s a guy you should be watching,'” Subban said Monday.

It is Green he will have to impress if he wishes to crack the Vancouver Canucks' lineup in 2017–18.

Ellis finished an incredible four-year junior career at OHL Windsor in 2011, just months before Subban arrived in Belleville. Ellis never averaged less than a point a game in any of those seasons as Nashville took him 11th overall in 2009. His rise in the NHL took a little longer, but he is in the midst of a stellar playoffs and has established himself as a permanent fixture on one of the league’s best blue lines.

Listed at five-foot-10 and 180 pounds, Ellis is one inch taller and two pounds heavier than Subban, who scored 28 goals in 67 regular-season and playoff games during his final junior season. He was selected 115th overall by Vancouver in 2013 and spent the last two years in the American League. There were a couple of call-ups to Vancouver, but no NHL games.

Will he introduce himself to Ellis?

“I’m not sure. He’s a little busy right now, it’s not the best time,” Subban replied with a laugh. “But hopefully I’ll be able to get video of all his shifts from a series or the playoffs to study a little more.”

Ellis’s four goals are tied for first among all defencemen in the post-season; his nine points are tied for second. But it’s not the scoring Subban notices.

“It’s the way that he defends. He’s always in great position, always great with the stick. He plays hard and smart, he knows how to use his brain a bit more to slow down the game. I’m always trying to push the pace, so that’s something I’m going to watch.

“It’s different watching Ellis in certain positions than, say, Zdeno Chara. I never thought that way before. I always studied the best players, wanting to be like them.”

But Subban sees now that Ellis is a better model, since they are of similar stature.

“I’m still learning. I’m going to watch and it’s exciting.”

Subban will make some other changes this off-season. He’s always in great shape, but will spend more time skating than in recent years.

“You have to be physically strong, but hockey players are made on the ice. I’m also shooting pucks every day. This summer is a big one for me. I have one goal next year — to be in the NHL.”

30 THOUGHTS

1. Subban added that he and P.K. spend time during the summers critiquing each other’s play while watching video. That’s got to be some high-quality entertainment. “We’re really blunt with each other. He’ll say, ‘What are you doing? That’s such a dumb play.’ In the game, you think it’s not that bad, then I’ll watch it and think, ‘What the hell was I doing... that was so awful.’ But it’s the only way to get better.”

Okay, what do you tell P.K. about his video? “Oh, I’ll just tell him, ‘You’ve got to block that shot' or 'Your gap is too big.’” I’m betting it’s more cutthroat than that.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Reefer2 » Sat May 20, 2017 1:55 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Reefer2 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:

So we should just ignore the general consensus and universal scouting reports on Subbans game? I'm just making this stuff up? Cool beans, from now on when I see the name on the back of his jersey, like you I will just imagine he's the PK Subban - smurf version. Shit we should have drafted Keith Gretzky


The difference RD is that I DON"T know anything about any prospect, I DON'T watch a few minutes of highlights read something a TV talking head says and then pretend to sound like I know what I am talking about.

You say a guy cant skate? Really and your a power skating coach?

Wasn't the talk around here was that Horvat couldn't skate? Not saying you wrote anything like that but as we can see from the past season Horvat can skate just fine thank you.

The NHL has many short D that play well and long careers, the NHL has many top 5 picks that have less than a 100 games in their NHL career. Just saying something based upon people whose job is to create clicks to their site is kinda useless. If you saw 5 - 6 games live then I would listen to that person more.


So if I understand correctly, if I witness 5-6 smurf Subban games you would then trust every scouts current opinion on smurf Subban, which is no different from what I am saying about him now? It's basically you and Iceman against what everyone is saying about him, but if I saw 5-6 games you would then join the general consensus group?


RD, I am not saying this about Suddan, I am talking about how you in general seem to sprout off other people's comments like they are your own.

In reality until you see them play several games you will never know.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby Blob Mckenzie » Sat May 20, 2017 2:20 pm

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Postby Strangelove » Sat May 20, 2017 7:19 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Reef bringing the heat and cuffing the dude around


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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Postby RoyalDude » Sat May 20, 2017 8:05 pm

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