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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Cherry Picker » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:12 pm

Thank Per!
Liked, ‘the “Swedish” team the Vancouver Canucks’.
The Canucks have had lots of luck with Swedish players, hopefully it continues.
Funny how Russians never seem to last in Vancouver (Krutov, Larionov, Bure, Mogilny, Chubarov, Tryamkin all wanted out), but Swedes, since Gradin, often have full careers with the Canucks.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Cornuck » Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:18 pm

Madcombinepilot wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:57 pm
Cornuck wrote:
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Pettersson: “You could say we are two different styles of play that think alike.”
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ok - but remember where you got it. ;)
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10968&p=263856&hili ... on#p263854

Also - thanks Per. :)
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by DonCherry4PM » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:23 pm

Thanks, Corn, SKYO and Per. Interesting tidbits on the up-and-comers.

Petterson and Dahlén sound pretty confident and there is definitely a lot of hope tied up in those two succeeding. Matching the Sedins might be a little premature to expect, but good to see them with a bit of swagger.

Would have been nice to see Hughes play, but possibly better for his development this way.

Definitely could be a couple of surprises at camp this year with what look to be quite promising prospects. Will be watching closely to see who of
Petterson, Dahlén, Lockwood, Gadjovich, Lind, Jasek and Palmu complete for a forward spot. Defense doesn't look to be quite as interesting without Hughes, but perhaps one of Juolevi, Brisbois or Chatfield will push a bit. Can't say I'm nearly as excited about the D prospects but hopefully we will all be pleasantly surprised.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by DonCherry4PM » Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:42 pm

World Junior Showcase in Kamloops to include 4 Canucks' Prospects:

Hughes, Woo, DiPietro and Utunen

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https://www.nhl.com/canucks/news/vancou ... -299616212

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/wor ... prospects/

https://www.hockeycanada.ca/en-ca/team- ... s/schedule
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Uncle dans leg » Mon Jul 30, 2018 4:13 pm

Too bad I'm not in clamlips anymore...would've liked to see hughes play
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Madcombinepilot » Mon Jul 30, 2018 9:28 pm

Cornuck wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:18 pm
Madcombinepilot wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:57 pm
Cornuck wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 12:55 pm
Pettersson: “You could say we are two different styles of play that think alike.”
The Twinsition™ will soon be complete... :D
hey.. my word, your trademark!! ;) :D :D
ok - but remember where you got it. ;)
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10968&p=263856&hili ... on#p263854

Also - thanks Per. :)

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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Linc » Mon Jul 30, 2018 11:01 pm

Per, thanks for posting the interview and taking the time to translate it for us. I think this is the second or third interview I have seen from Dahlen and he seems to be well spoken for a young kid. Might have a bit of Bieksa's gift for giving interviews from the heart. I am looking forward to the arrival of these two.

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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Todd Bersnoozi » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:24 am

Cherry Picker wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:12 pm
Funny how Russians never seem to last in Vancouver (Krutov, Larionov, Bure, Mogilny, Chubarov, Tryamkin all wanted out), but Swedes, since Gradin, often have full careers with the Canucks.
Not sure that Larionov, Krutov and Almo want out though. In fact, Krutov wanted to stay, but he reported to camp out of shape, so the Canucks just wanted get rid of him. They couldn't drive him to the airport fast enuff. I think Igor actually liked it here and was quite loyal to the club. He went to Europe to play for a year cuz he didn't think some agency back in Russia should take a portion of his salary. Iggy was quite the helpful guy off the ice as well, as he helped secure documentation to prove that Pavel Bure was eligible to be drafted by the Canucks. If Iggy didn't help out, there is a good chance we may have never seen the Russian Rocket in Van-city. Many would argue Bure was the best Canuck ever, but he was definitely the most electrifying and most exciting to watch. As for Almo, think Burke basically just moved him cuz we were pretty much out of the playoffs. Burke just wanted to get younger and get assets for Almo b4 he became a free agent. Kind of like what JB did with Burr and Hansen.

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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Puck » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:36 am

That sounds about right...

...but more importantly, is it just me, or is Wee Todd turning a new leaf? In a 196 word post he managed to use actual words for all but four. He also used full names for players at least six times. Do you have a new girlfriend from the English department, Todd?

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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Cherry Picker » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:08 am

Todd Bersnoozi wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:24 am
Cherry Picker wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 1:12 pm
Funny how Russians never seem to last in Vancouver (Krutov, Larionov, Bure, Mogilny, Chubarov, Tryamkin all wanted out), but Swedes, since Gradin, often have full careers with the Canucks.
Not sure that Larionov, Krutov and Almo want out though. In fact, Krutov wanted to stay, but he reported to camp out of shape, so the Canucks just wanted get rid of him. They couldn't drive him to the airport fast enuff. I think Igor actually liked it here and was quite loyal to the club. He went to Europe to play for a year cuz he didn't think some agency back in Russia should take a portion of his salary. Iggy was quite the helpful guy off the ice as well, as he helped secure documentation to prove that Pavel Bure was eligible to be drafted by the Canucks. If Iggy didn't help out, there is a good chance we may have never seen the Russian Rocket in Van-city. Many would argue Bure was the best Canuck ever, but he was definitely the most electrifying and most exciting to watch. As for Almo, think Burke basically just moved him cuz we were pretty much out of the playoffs. Burke just wanted to get younger and get assets for Almo b4 he became a free agent. Kind of like what JB did with Burr and Hansen.
Krutov was homesick and wanted out.
Larionov could have resigned with Vancouver, but didn’t. He has his reasons.
Bure forced a trade out of Vancouver.
Chubarov left his car in the GM place parking lot, flew to Russian, and never came back.
Tryamkin couldn’t stand the pot stink on the east side and split.
I shouldn’t have included Mogilny, my bad, he just didn’t show as much effort in Vancouver as he did elsewhere and was traded.
But I also failed to include how Federov wanted out just because Bieksa Superman punched him. He should have been honoured.

Still the point that Russians have failed to have full careers in Vancouver compared to the Swedes stands.
Compare how full those Ruskie careers were to Swedes like Gradin, Naslund, Ohlund, Sedins, Edler and my point stands.
Going forward based on the historical results, for the Canucks, getting top Swedish prospects seems like a better strategy than going after Russian ones. So having prospects like Pettersson and Dahlen is great. Russian seem to have more issues. You’ll notice the Russian Manukyan was the only draft pick that didn’t show up to the prospect camp. Not off to a great start if he really wants to make it to the NHL.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:13 am

Igor was left unprotected by Pat Quinn in the expansion draft. I think he protected Tom Fergus instead
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by micky107 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:39 am

Russians are quite often impetuous.
Swedes like roots.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by Uncle dans leg » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:47 am

Cherry Picker wrote:
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You’ll notice the Russian Manukyan was the only draft pick that didn’t show up to the prospect camp. Not off to a great start if he really wants to make it to the NHL.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by micky107 » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:01 pm

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:47 am
Cherry Picker wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 10:08 am
You’ll notice the Russian Manukyan was the only draft pick that didn’t show up to the prospect camp. Not off to a great start if he really wants to make it to the NHL.
Screw that smurfy little fuck. He can take giant whiff of a huge ass as far as I'm concerned
https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/3 ... m-manukyan
If he can reach that far.
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Re: Canucks Young Guns

Post by SKYO » Tue Jul 31, 2018 1:36 pm

Manukyan probably needs a couple years in the KHL anyways, chill fam'
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