Draft Day 2016

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Hank » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:25 pm

Joe Sakic picks himself.

Tyson Jost will probably be the Avs captain one day.
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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Cornuck » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:33 pm

OTT and NJ swap picks for a 3rd
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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Mondi » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:34 pm

Lloyd Braun wrote:
Mondi wrote:Hopefully this new kid if tougher than he looks.
Not every kid has to be tough. Gudbranson opens the doors to adding some more puck movement and possession play back there.

The reason all the fancy stats people hate Gudbranson is the reason he needs a guy like Juolevi to play with.

I've said the same about Jordan Subban in the past, but the two are not in the same category of prospect quality, and Juolevi is a left shot, whereas both Subban and Gudbranson shoot right.

Say what you want about how, maybe, Juolevi wasn't the BPA... but Benning's said he saw the 4-6 picks as being very close in value, and it makes sense that he sees Juolevi as fitting our needs the best.
It is a fine pick.

But, all defenceman should be tough.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Hank » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:39 pm

Let's hope Juolevi is in the Ohlund & Salo mode… a steady all-around D.
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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Lloyd Braun » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:46 pm

Mondi wrote:But, all defenceman should be tough.
Cool. Are you going to break the news to Chris Tanev, or should I?

Because we're not talking here about tenacity, ability to absorb a hit, or to play through pain. I haven't heard anything remotely negative about Juolevi in any of those regards. We're talking about a player who knows that physical play is not his game, and doesn't try to be something he isn't.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by ClamRussel » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:51 pm

Lloyd Braun wrote:
Mondi wrote:But, all defenceman should be tough.
Cool. Are you going to break the news to Chris Tanev, or should I?

Because we're not talking here about tenacity, ability to absorb a hit, or to play through pain. I haven't heard anything remotely negative about Juolevi in any of those regards. We're talking about a player who knows that physical play is not his game, and doesn't try to be something he isn't.
I don't recall any complaints about Lidstrom's reluctance to hit.
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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:58 pm

ClamRussel wrote:
Lloyd Braun wrote:
Mondi wrote:But, all defenceman should be tough.
Cool. Are you going to break the news to Chris Tanev, or should I?

Because we're not talking here about tenacity, ability to absorb a hit, or to play through pain. I haven't heard anything remotely negative about Juolevi in any of those regards. We're talking about a player who knows that physical play is not his game, and doesn't try to be something he isn't.
I don't recall any complaints about Lidstrom's reluctance to hit.
You know, I seem to recall there actually were. Some people really, really need a lot of rock 'em sock 'em in their hockey -- even more than they like to actually win. But if Juolevi is only ever 81% as good, the Canucks made out very well with the pick.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Mondi » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:59 pm

First, I said I hope he is tougher than he looks. Didn't say he wasn't tough.

Second, anyone who thinks Tanev or Lidstrom aren't tough just isn't paying any attention.

Find something else to bitch about other than my reaction to this pick.

And, let's dial back on the Lidstrom comparisons. Jesus.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by herb » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:03 pm

On the plus side, Juolevi's mom has a wicked mullet.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Lloyd Braun » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:05 pm

Mondi wrote:First, I said I hope he is tougher than he looks. Didn't say he wasn't tough.
I think the word I'm thinking of is "physical" more than "tough," so sure. Point taken. Those two words are used as synonyms far too often. They are not the same thing.
Mondi wrote:And, let's dial back on the Lidstrom comparisons. Jesus.
Hampus Lindholm? Oliver Ekman-Larsson? Don't have to look at the hall of fame to find players having success with similar skillsets. Just looking at the last half decade of Scandinavian, first rounder, left-D picks works fine.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by herb » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:07 pm

Holy fuck, Keith Tkachuk is like Charles Barkley obese.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Diehard1 » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:10 pm

herb wrote:Holy fuck, Keith Tkachuk is like Charles Barkley obese.
He's a house. Just massive. Young Matthew is going to have to watch himself, Keith used to come into camp way overweight. Keep Matthew away from the buffet table.

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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by ClamRussel » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:12 pm

Mondi wrote:First, I said I hope he is tougher than he looks. Didn't say he wasn't tough.

Second, anyone who thinks Tanev or Lidstrom aren't tough just isn't paying any attention.

Find something else to bitch about other than my reaction to this pick.

And, let's dial back on the Lidstrom comparisons. Jesus.
Relax, it's not a Lidstrom comparison. Just an example of a tough player who was successful not playing the 'rock 'em sock 'em" type game. I could have used the Sedins but opted for a blueliner. He looks to be a player who is calm and cool out there, will make underrated smart plays. Definitely not a sexy pick, hopefully it's the right one.
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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Hank » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:13 pm

herb wrote:Holy fuck, Keith Tkachuk is like Charles Barkley obese.
He's actually still at his playing weight! :mrgreen:

Seems like both Arizona and Detroit made out well with this Datsyuk trade.
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Re: Draft Day 2016

Post by Island Nucklehead » Fri Jun 24, 2016 6:14 pm

Nice dangle by Detroit.

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