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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Chef Boi RD » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:14 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:Yeah I guess they can't sign EG to an extension yet. That said the rest of my point stands. Benning is like a crack head when it comes to making trades, yet with his team in the toilet he has made none ?? Furthermore other GMs really ,really like dealing with Elmer. The fact that there have have been a half dozen guys pass through waivers and he hasn't grabbed even one is also telling. This would at least allow them to send Chaput and Megna back to Utica. I guess maybe they want The Fake to play with Wacey Hamilton . ?
Part 1 - a 2nd and a 3rd pick or Steve Bernier
Part 2 - a 1st round pick, a former 1st round pick in Grabner and Steve Bernier for Buyout Ballard

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Island Nucklehead » Sat Dec 24, 2016 4:16 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:It's just Blob's turn to be contrary this year folks. Dude did it so well for 2-3 years he's now a cheerleader. Refreshing change but predictable :mrgreen:

As for trades, Blob really doesn't want Benning to be involved in trades given his history or throwing in extra picks. He also doesn't want him handling contract negotiations given his history of over paying, giving too much term.

So Blob is probably quit happy with all the inactivity.
Dude is still doing it (see: the Avalanche Routine), it's just not as good these days.

The next month or two will be telling. Hopefully Jimbo learned from last years Hamhuis/Vrbata debacle and moves earlier this time around. Gotta feel a little sympathetic for him. He's been on the losing end of several trades, and the blood is in the water around Vancouver, can't imagine he's getting many fair calls these days. I'm hoping he keeps it real simple, players for picks. If you can't get the B-level prospect added to a Hansen, don't sweat it.

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Hockey Widow » Sat Dec 24, 2016 5:05 pm

Torts told us all loud and clear the team was stale and needed changing. We all knew that. We clamoured for change. Good gawd we've seen nothing but change in the 2.5 years Benning has been here. It's a f**king rebuild no matter what Linden and Benning have been calling it. The process started before the Kesler trade. Why did he want out? Because he said he was told we were going to rebuild and he wanted to win now. That was under Gillis's last season. The Torts year.

So ownership is on board and turfed MG because they didn't trust him to do the rebuild. There is nothing wrong with doing it slowly and trying, trying, to keep the fans vested. Not every move has worked out but I have yet to see a move, well other than Vey, and Prust, that really stink. I get both moves but would love do overs. Other than that, ok, Clendenning, the moves have been fine.

Drafting has been great, comparatively speaking of course. We are 2.5 years in. Rebuilds take 4-5 years. We are on course.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by gobi » Sat Dec 24, 2016 10:40 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Torts told us all loud and clear the team was stale and needed changing. We all knew that. We clamoured for change. Good gawd we've seen nothing but change in the 2.5 years Benning has been here. It's a f**king rebuild no matter what Linden and Benning have been calling it. The process started before the Kesler trade. Why did he want out? Because he said he was told we were going to rebuild and he wanted to win now. That was under Gillis's last season. The Torts year.

So ownership is on board and turfed MG because they didn't trust him to do the rebuild. There is nothing wrong with doing it slowly and trying, trying, to keep the fans vested. Not every move has worked out but I have yet to see a move, well other than Vey, and Prust, that really stink. I get both moves but would love do overs. Other than that, ok, Clendenning, the moves have been fine.

Drafting has been great, comparatively speaking of course. We are 2.5 years in. Rebuilds take 4-5 years. We are on course.
Given the benefit of hindsight, would you still have drafted Virtanen? Or passed over Tkachuk?

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Post by bckev » Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:52 am

gobi wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Torts told us all loud and clear the team was stale and needed changing. We all knew that. We clamoured for change. Good gawd we've seen nothing but change in the 2.5 years Benning has been here. It's a f**king rebuild no matter what Linden and Benning have been calling it. The process started before the Kesler trade. Why did he want out? Because he said he was told we were going to rebuild and he wanted to win now. That was under Gillis's last season. The Torts year.

So ownership is on board and turfed MG because they didn't trust him to do the rebuild. There is nothing wrong with doing it slowly and trying, trying, to keep the fans vested. Not every move has worked out but I have yet to see a move, well other than Vey, and Prust, that really stink. I get both moves but would love do overs. Other than that, ok, Clendenning, the moves have been fine.

Drafting has been great, comparatively speaking of course. We are 2.5 years in. Rebuilds take 4-5 years. We are on course.

Well said. Patience will win the day. The way Benning is structuring the team when we get good we are going to be good for a long time.

Given the benefit of hindsight, would you still have drafted Virtanen? Or passed over Tkachuk?

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Post by Micky » Sun Dec 25, 2016 8:00 am

NO! I WOULD HAVE RIGGED THE LOTTERY... :twisted:
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Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Dec 25, 2016 1:18 pm

gobi wrote:
Hockey Widow wrote:Torts told us all loud and clear the team was stale and needed changing. We all knew that. We clamoured for change. Good gawd we've seen nothing but change in the 2.5 years Benning has been here. It's a f**king rebuild no matter what Linden and Benning have been calling it. The process started before the Kesler trade. Why did he want out? Because he said he was told we were going to rebuild and he wanted to win now. That was under Gillis's last season. The Torts year.

So ownership is on board and turfed MG because they didn't trust him to do the rebuild. There is nothing wrong with doing it slowly and trying, trying, to keep the fans vested. Not every move has worked out but I have yet to see a move, well other than Vey, and Prust, that really stink. I get both moves but would love do overs. Other than that, ok, Clendenning, the moves have been fine.

Drafting has been great, comparatively speaking of course. We are 2.5 years in. Rebuilds take 4-5 years. We are on course.

Given the benefit of hindsight, would you still have drafted Virtanen? Or passed over Tkachuk?
Don't know re Tkachuk. That one I have to wait until we get to see Juolevi.

I was never a fan of the Virtanen pick.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Iceman2014 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:13 pm

micky107 wrote:NO! I WOULD HAVE RIGGED THE LOTTERY... :twisted:
easy questions.....
Rigged? Why? My faith in Benning was rocked last season after the trade deadline. Then the Canucks want to instill a winning attitude...and miss out on Auston Matthews by 6 points. 6. They could've easily lost 4 more games and it wouldn't have made a single difference....other than getting a franchise centre. I know players don't really tank but Benning could've dealt Miller and some other vets at the deadline to ensure Willie had to play the kids and go with it. How much better would you feel about the Canucks future if you had Matthews in the organization instead of Juolevi - considering the nice depth we have at D as well.

This still annoys me. :mex:

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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Micky » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:42 pm

Iceman2014 wrote:
micky107 wrote:NO! I WOULD HAVE RIGGED THE LOTTERY... :twisted:
easy questions.....
Rigged? Why? My faith in Benning was rocked last season after the trade deadline. Then the Canucks want to instill a winning attitude...and miss out on Auston Matthews by 6 points. 6. They could've easily lost 4 more games and it wouldn't have made a single difference....other than getting a franchise centre. I know players don't really tank but Benning could've dealt Miller and some other vets at the deadline to ensure Willie had to play the kids and go with it. How much better would you feel about the Canucks future if you had Matthews in the organization instead of Juolevi - considering the nice depth we have at D as well.

This still annoys me. :mex:
Bur your assuming we would have won the lottery. Maybe it was rigged?
Anyway, joking aside, dealing Miller and some other vets at the deadline was probably talked about and inquiries possibly made but I think the returns may well have been shit.
Even at that, what kids would we have played? Wasn't much in Utica at the time.
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Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:00 pm

Edler back at full practice. Expected to play tomorrow. D pairings at practice:

Stetcher/Edler
Tanev/Sbisa
Trymakin/Hutton.

This keeps Trymakin on the right side. I liked the Trymakin/Sbisa pairing. Not sure how well he and Hutton play together. Pushes Hutton to third pairing.

Biega and Pedan the scratches, expected anyway. Look for Pedan to be sent back to Utica soon.

Hansen not on ice. No word on the results of his MRI. He is doubtful for next game.

Rumours reigniting that Dallas is interested in acquiring either Bishop or Miller sooner rather than later. They believe their only chance to catch the playoff wave is with a significant upgrade in net.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by TDA Rum » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:15 pm

Bishop is injured... probably out until the All star break..
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Micky » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:16 pm

Maybe a change like this is what Hutton needs right mow.
He seems a bit lost and frustrated with his own mistakes.
I look forward to seeing these potential pairings..
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by okcanuck » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:17 pm

Hansen out 4-6 weeks

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Post by Doyle Hargraves » Tue Dec 27, 2016 4:35 pm

okcanuck wrote:Hansen out 4-6 weeks
That sucks for him. Garbage hit by Perrault. Hard luck season for the Dane but he should still have a lot of value after the expansion draft dust settles.
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Re: Canucks News and Notes 2016/17

Post by Chef Boi RD » Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:51 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:Edler back at full practice. Expected to play tomorrow. D pairings at practice:

Stetcher/Edler
Tanev/Sbisa
Trymakin/Hutton.

This keeps Trymakin on the right side. I liked the Trymakin/Sbisa pairing. Not sure how well he and Hutton play together. Pushes Hutton to third pairing.

Biega and Pedan the scratches, expected anyway. Look for Pedan to be sent back to Utica soon.

Hansen not on ice. No word on the results of his MRI. He is doubtful for next game.

Rumours reigniting that Dallas is interested in acquiring either Bishop or Miller sooner rather than later. They believe their only chance to catch the playoff wave is with a significant upgrade in net.
Ain't happening. Trevl and Jiml are too in love with Miller
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