You're not following any of this... at all.Aaronp18 wrote:The difference being Luo is still playing to the value of his contract. The play of the guys you mentioned dropped dramatically and their cap hit was a hindrance on the teams ability to be competitive, arguably anyways.Strangelove wrote:I'm talking about LTIR-down-the-road being dismissed as an option by the teams holding these players!Aaronp18 wrote:Those guys still wanted to play in the league, the team that held their contract did not want to pay them that amount any longer to play. You obviously can't go on LTIR if you'd still be willing to play for someone else!Strangelove wrote: Yeah, I dunno, I always figured it would have to be a legitimate serious injury (Pronger, Savard).
Otherwise why wasn't this done with players like Brad Richards, Ehrhoff, Lecavalier, Bryzgalov?
Those players were bought out (compliance) to avoid the dreaded Cap Recapture penalty.
Why do that if LTIR is an easy option.
Brad Richards, for example, was supposed to play for 3 more years at his cap-hit of $6.6M and then retire.
But the new Cap Recapture rule introduced a $5,666,667 x 3 yrs penalty if they continued with that plan
... so they bought him out instead.
Gud Gawd... I wasn't talking about LTIRing these guys in their prime!
I'm talking about the fact that NHL teams preferred massive buyouts over eventual LTIR shenanigans.
They obviously weighed the pros and cons and decided the buyout was the best option. This wasn't the case with Luongo, he was providing a value to his team (and still is) equal or greater to his contract.
Why would those teams pay out those MASSIVE amounts if it was a reasonable option to just LTIR those players
(when the time came).
Why would a guy like Luongo open himself up to possible insurance fraud?Aaronp18 wrote:Of course, but there's a myriad of minor injuries that can add up to LTIR status. Luo has had groin issues, knee problems, which are common in goalies, maybe he has a back issue as well - they can add up and cause long term injuriesStrangelove wrote:Well an insurance company would have to pay for Lou's hefty contract I believe, so they'd investigate.Aaronp18 wrote: If Luo doesn't want to play anymore why not simply say his body simply cannot handle the grind of the NHL anymore, his groin constantly hurts and it doesn't allow him to play.
Also, the NHL has the right (and the obligation) to investigate a suspicious LTIR placement.
One can find a doctor that can tell you something is wrong with you!