The Great Jim Benning Debate!

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by BladesofSteel » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:09 am

You're probably right Doc.

Aquilini is courting his next GM as we speak. Jim's days are numbered regardless.

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Strangelove » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:10 am

BladesofSteel wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:09 am
Jim's days are numbered regardless.
Wrong.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by BladesofSteel » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:24 am

Whatever you say Doc.

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:34 am

Curious what players JimBro inherited that could provide a massive windfall at the deadline or simply any time of the year? The inherited players were a combination of old and past their prime on shitty contracts with NTC's. Kesler was the only good piece since he was the youngest of that core group but thanks to the Gillis NTC he names just one team, was never gonna win that one. Trade the Sedins? Would never happen under any GM. Really curious about all these attractive assets JimBro inherited that had that potential amazing swing for the fences haul in return????

The time for those such trades to happen with those core players were when they were in their Matt Duschene prime before they were given goofball NTC contracts like post 2011 in the Gillis regime

If they could get 31 year old Edler to waive to a bunch of teams then they should explore that but like Kesler, he holds all the cards. Edler loves it here, built a home here, his wife is from here not to mention she's best buds with Lindens wife but with one year left on his deal they should see if he can budge a few teams on that NTC. If they trade him then explore resigning the younger Gudbranson. But like I said Edler is in control here.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:31 am

RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:34 am
Curious what players JimBro inherited that could provide a massive windfall at the deadline or simply any time of the year?
Hamhius, Tanev

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:04 pm

Ronning's Ghost wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:31 am
RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:34 am
Curious what players JimBro inherited that could provide a massive windfall at the deadline or simply any time of the year?
Hamhius, Tanev
Well Clifford you dawg you, Blades is pining for a Big Blockbuster type trade, now we all know from the tale of the tape that the measely offerings for Hamhius at the time were nothing of the extraordinairy kind, hence blockbuster, but that topic thanks to Bubbles is a much debated dead one. As for Tanev, I for one thinks it's foolish to trade Tanev due to the current state of our defence, factor in the Gudbranson UFA situation. But hey, if you can get a younger D-man back who is NHL ready then let's do it but if we are just getting picks and prospect type of returns, well, if you think the D is bad now.


I'd try to trade Edler who has 1 year left on his contract and try to resign Gudbranson. It might take more than we want to pay, but this team is butter soft at the moment. Finding toughness who can keep up with today's game is a disappearing commodity unless you are like Blob who still thinks there a place in today's game for your Tony Twists and Dave Browns

Speaking of Bubbles I see his prized - Sergachev has been a healthy scratch for 3 straight games. Apparently he's getting lit up like a Christmas tree defensively - Jordan Subban style.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Ronning's Ghost » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:14 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:04 pm
this team is butter soft at the moment. Finding toughness who can keep up with today's game is a disappearing commodity
I have suggested that it might be easier to teach pugilism to hockey players than to get thugs to play better hockey. I may be wrong, but has anyone even tried ?

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:36 pm

Ronning's Ghost wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:14 pm
RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:04 pm
this team is butter soft at the moment. Finding toughness who can keep up with today's game is a disappearing commodity
I have suggested that it might be easier to teach pugilism to hockey players than to get thugs to play better hockey. I may be wrong, but has anyone even tried ?
Dude it's either in ya or it isn't. Can't be learned. Just ask the resident CC pugilist - Bubbles. Mind you my money is always on Clark Park when it comes to Bubbles vs Doc
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by RoyalDude » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:40 pm

Or sign Guds, keep Edler and then trade Tanev for prospects/picks. But this team can't lose both for no immediate help on defence.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Uncle dans leg » Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:25 pm

RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:36 pm
. Mind you my money is always on Clark Park when it comes to Bubbles vs Doc
Just like your tongue? :lol:
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:46 am

Uncle dans leg wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:25 pm
RoyalDude wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:36 pm
. Mind you my money is always on Clark Park when it comes to Bubbles vs Doc
Just like your tongue? :lol:
lol no kidding. Those two are in a permanent 71
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Blob Mckenzie » Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:46 am

One wonders if there will be five posters on suicide watch if/when Elmer gets the boot at seasons end. For the record I think it’s greasy the way this is playing out but then again there are a handful of other GMs experiencing the same thing so maybe this becomes a bit more of a trend. If there is no chance of landing Brisebois or Fenton or another bright young mind , maybe you bring Elmer back on a short leash. Despite the fact he can’t manage the salary cap worth of shit and has signed some boat anchor contracts he has cleaned up the trades a bit and he has drafted decently. It will be an interesting time in Canucksville over the next 3-6 months regardless.
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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Meds » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:00 pm

Blob Mckenzie wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 11:46 am
One wonders if there will be five posters on suicide watch if/when Elmer gets the boot at seasons end. For the record I think it’s greasy the way this is playing out but then again there are a handful of other GMs experiencing the same thing so maybe this becomes a bit more of a trend. If there is no chance of landing Brisebois or Fenton or another bright young mind , maybe you bring Elmer back on a short leash. Despite the fact he can’t manage the salary cap worth of shit and has signed some boat anchor contracts he has cleaned up the trades a bit and he has drafted decently. It will be an interesting time in Canucksville over the next 3-6 months regardless.
I really doubt Benning gets the axe.

The Aquabros are the ones who told him to spend and build because they wanted a competitive team. And rumours were strong that it was ownership who couldn’t handle a rebuild so the first 18 months of Benning’s tenure were spent in futility. Moreover it was the owners who gave Gillis the free hand to dole out NTC’s like penny candy and Jimbo has had to work around that as well.

Most pundits are raving about the future in vancouver right now. The Canucks forward and goaltending prospect pool is the envy of over half the league.

There are only a pair of real blemishes on Elmer’s body of work over the last (almost) 4 years, and those are Eriksson’s contract, and Sutter’s extension. The former is proving to be overpaid by at least $2M per.....of not $3M, and his term is unbelievably bad. The latter isn’t as overpaid as we like to make it out to be, but Sutter is definitely not coming as advertised.

I don’t know anything about Brisebois or Fenton, but I wouldn’t make a change just yet as I feel like it would just be making a change for the sake of making a change.

Benning should get 2 more years, and if the 2019-20 season isn’t looking good at the Christmas break then give him the axe.

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Zemtac » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:05 pm

Benning should get 3 more years. He has done a great job with what he was given to work with and has done exactly what was asked of him from the beginning. Most importantly, he has built our Prospect Pool up better than it has ever been. We have prospects leading their respective leagues all around the world. One setting a generational pace, another fighting for Rookie of the year, another for a Hobey Baker Award!!! I for one am excited about seeing what Benning and Co. draft in the next draft. That is what we should be focusing on, that is the meat and potatoes!!! Boeser, Pettersson, Gaudette, Demko, BFG, Dahlin, Lind, Gad, Virt, Pouliet, Stetch, Goldy, and next years draft. Sure you can bitch about the odd move, which most of will be cleared out by the time the core is moving into place!!! But when have we had such high end prospect coming up throught the lineup, never. We always traded for others scraps that fortunetely from time to time, like Naslund worked out!!! Burkes trading and drafting the Sedin's set us up for a Decade with the WCE ahead of them (Note: every player on the WCE was a traded player) Again, you win from building from within and this is the best this Franchise has ever had by a wide margin and some Jack Asses don't want to continue on with this trend!!! Only Canuck fans!!!

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Re: The Great Jim Benning Debate!

Post by Strangelove » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:15 pm

Zemtac wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:05 pm
Benning should get 3 more years. He has done a great job with what he was given to work with and has done exactly what was asked of him from the beginning. Most importantly, he has built our Prospect Pool up better than it has ever been. We have prospects leading their respective leagues all around the world. One setting a generational pace, another fighting for Rookie of the year, another for a Hobey Baker Award!!! I for one am excited about seeing what Benning and Co. draft in the next draft. That is what we should be focusing on, that is the meat and potatoes!!! Boeser, Pettersson, Gaudette, Demko, BFG, Dahlin, Lind, Gad, Virt, Pouliet, Stetch, Goldy, and next years draft. Sure you can bitch about the odd move, which most of will be cleared out by the time the core is moving into place!!! But when have we had such high end prospect coming up throught the lineup, never. We always traded for others scraps that fortunetely from time to time, like Naslund worked out!!! Burkes trading and drafting the Sedin's set us up for a Decade with the WCE ahead of them (Note: every player on the WCE was a traded player) Again, you win from building from within and this is the best this Franchise has ever had by a wide margin and some Jack Asses don't want to continue on with this trend!!! Only Canuck fans!!!
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