The Great Jim Benning Debate! (And personal insult thread)

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rats19 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
rats19 wrote:Gillis was in a do or die situation with aging vets his window was "now" so to speak. A lot like Dallas right now, in that scenario you don't protect your pics as hard as maybe they should. To me that's why gillis drafting sucked he put it all out there for the ... now.

We pay for it in the present but if we had a cup it wouldn't be as painful
Um so because of that weird logic he should not care about drafting well with the picks they had at the draft? Just phone it in, "pick whoever, I don't give a Rats ass"?
Yeano kinda , but the lack of picks aided to the disaster, the ones traded away...

Also to clarify... I am not saying he did good...
Useless feeble excuse. Benning has traded picks and still manages to add valuable assets to the organization through the draft.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:Just because Todd Bertuzzi took a while to develop doesn't mean power forwards take any longer to develop than any other player. Eric Lindros, Brendan Shanahan, Milan Lucic, Keith Tkachuk, and Cam Neely say hi.
You won't finish writing the book on Hunter Shrinkydink who is a year older than Jake but you slammed the book on Virtanen permanently shut?
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RoyalDude wrote:
rats19 wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
rats19 wrote:Gillis was in a do or die situation with aging vets his window was "now" so to speak. A lot like Dallas right now, in that scenario you don't protect your pics as hard as maybe they should. To me that's why gillis drafting sucked he put it all out there for the ... now.

We pay for it in the present but if we had a cup it wouldn't be as painful
Um so because of that weird logic he should not care about drafting well with the picks they had at the draft? Just phone it in, "pick whoever, I don't give a Rats ass"?
Yeano kinda , but the lack of picks aided to the disaster, the ones traded away...

Also to clarify... I am not saying he did good...
Useless feeble excuse. Benning has traded picks and still manages to add valuable assets to the organization through the draft.
So the Dallas situation has no value in comparison?
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RoyalDude wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Just because Todd Bertuzzi took a while to develop doesn't mean power forwards take any longer to develop than any other player. Eric Lindros, Brendan Shanahan, Milan Lucic, Keith Tkachuk, and Cam Neely say hi.
You won't finish writing the book on Hunter Shrinkydink who is a year older than Jake but you slammed the book on Virtanen permanently shut?
Nope I hope he pans out but it doesn't look good when pretty much the entire first round of 2014 are NHL regulars.

Not sure what the fascination with Shinkaruk is, I was never a massive fan just wish they had dealt him for a player other than Granlund. At this point it looks like a win for Ignitowski and I've said as much even though I'm not a big fan of Granlund
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rats19 wrote:
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rats19 wrote:
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rats19 wrote:Gillis was in a do or die situation with aging vets his window was "now" so to speak. A lot like Dallas right now, in that scenario you don't protect your pics as hard as maybe they should. To me that's why gillis drafting sucked he put it all out there for the ... now.

We pay for it in the present but if we had a cup it wouldn't be as painful
Um so because of that weird logic he should not care about drafting well with the picks they had at the draft? Just phone it in, "pick whoever, I don't give a Rats ass"?
Yeano kinda , but the lack of picks aided to the disaster, the ones traded away...

Also to clarify... I am not saying he did good...
Useless feeble excuse. Benning has traded picks and still manages to add valuable assets to the organization through the draft.
So the Dallas situation has no value in comparison?
Dallas situation? Go slow, I'm hungover Blobbee Mac style
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You're hungover ? I'm on the road in twenty minutes up to Squamish with a spitter of a dome ache
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:
RoyalDude wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Just because Todd Bertuzzi took a while to develop doesn't mean power forwards take any longer to develop than any other player. Eric Lindros, Brendan Shanahan, Milan Lucic, Keith Tkachuk, and Cam Neely say hi.
You won't finish writing the book on Hunter Shrinkydink who is a year older than Jake but you slammed the book on Virtanen permanently shut?
Nope I hope he pans out but it doesn't look good when pretty much the entire first round of 2014 are NHL regulars.

Not sure what the fascination with Shinkaruk is, I was never a massive fan just wish they had dealt him for a player other than Granlund. At this point it looks like a win for Ignitowski and I've said as much even though I'm not a big fan of Granlund
Granlund scored 20 goals with a bum wrist all season. Gillis true 2013 1st round pick - Shrinkydink has toiled miserably in the minors since being drafted. Massive asset improvement by the Genius, ahhhhhhgain
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:You're hungover ? I'm on the road in twenty minutes up to Squamish with a spitter of a dome ache
Off to Squish eh? What for? Scoping out real estate? Not cheap anymore my friend. Admire the beauty of the north shore when you pass through. Paradise by the ocean
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Visiting my sister in law. Yeah I wouldn't want a crib up there. I've got it down to a few places in the next ten years. Qualicum Beach, Vernon, Peachland , Blind Bay or Kamloops
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Yeano kinda , but the lack of picks aided to the disaster, the ones traded away...

Also to clarify... I am not saying he did good...[/quote]

Useless feeble excuse. Benning has traded picks and still manages to add valuable assets to the organization through the draft.[/quote]
So the Dallas situation has no value in comparison?[/quote]

Dallas situation? Go slow, I'm hungover Blobbee Mac style[/quote]
Because their time is now or next 2 years. Their 3rd is available for a now guy.
Benn n schenn window is or will be closing , that's all I am saying. Because if where they are they are forfeiting young top 5 picks for now guys.... that's all
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RoyalDude wrote:.... when you are stealing the.... Tryamkins.... way outside the first round that is nothing short of genius.
The usual measure of success for drafts outside the first round is number of NHL games played. It doesn't matter how successful Benning was in identifying talent if that player isn't on the ice for his organization. Any role the ownership/management group may (or may not) have had in reducing his desire to play for them further mutes the clarions of genius.

Like Virtanen, the story isn't over yet, but like Virtanen, we are in the dark chapters.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:Visiting my sister in law. Yeah I wouldn't want a crib up there. I've got it down to a few places in the next ten years. Qualicum Beach, Vernon, Peachland , Blind Bay or Kamloops
Dude, don't go Interior BC - nice in the summer yeah, but depressing grey ice cold winter hell deadsvile. Do the Island
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Yeah I love Parksville and Qualicum.
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:Yeah I love Parksville and Qualicum.
Smokin deals in Parksville, know a dude who bought a home for $250,000 in town of Parksville after selling his home for $2.1 million on the north shore. Talk about downsizing but has a pocketful of dough
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RoyalDude wrote:
Blob Mckenzie wrote:Every team has Gaudette , Lockwood and Brisebois type prospects. None of these guys has proven a thing. Tryamkin was a good pick but he wants nothing to do with this organization.Elmer will be judged on Boeser, Juolevi, Virtanen, McCann and this years pick.
Gaudette ranked 40th on Craig Buttons Top 50 prospects list. Pierre MaGuire drools over Gaudette but that don't matter, just McCann matters who never made the top 50 list, whom the Panthers are not happy with but we got Gudbranson for? Boeser drafted 23rd overall was ranked 15th if memory serves. How'd you like Boesers play when
We signed him? Demko made the list as well, but that don't matter
If Craig, Pierre and Bob were that great of assessing talent then they would be making a hell of a lot more money being a GM of a NHL team and not siting on the sidelines trying to peddle their ware for key clicks.
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