2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by rats19 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:16 pm

TDA Rum wrote:People have to remember that there will be at least 15 teams in severe cap trouble next season, so there is the potential to get some really good deals via trade or signing other teams RFA's... Benning and Linden have a plan, just have to be patient until it all unfolds...
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Topper » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:11 pm

TDA Rum wrote:People have to remember that there will be at least 15 teams in severe cap trouble next season, so there is the potential to get some really good deals via trade or signing other teams RFA's... Benning and Linden have a plan, just have to be patient until it all unfolds...
.....what 's the value of pierre junior' peso?
.....what will the cap be next year?
.....how much whining will the PA do about escrow?

Cap space is especially valuable heading into next season.......but don't tell the teabaggers. They won't listen.
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by TDA Rum » Tue Mar 01, 2016 7:32 pm

Johannson, Barrie, Killorn, Gudbranson, Schwartz, Kreider, Mackinnon, Trouba, Wilson, Kucherov and many more... are all RFA's...

Canucks also have their own 1st,2nd, & 3rd picks next year for compensation if they offer sheet...

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Aaronp18 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:28 pm

Island Nucklehead wrote: I guess the Oilers are set.
Please!

If we turn into the Oilers I'll be pissing my pants right along with you.

They are proof positive that having a ton of high picks isn't always the answer to build a contending team.

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Cornuck » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:40 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Island Nucklehead wrote: I guess the Oilers are set.
Please!

If we turn into the Oilers I'll be pissing my pants right along with you.

They are proof positive that having a ton of high picks isn't always the answer to build a contending team.
But it sure helps...

Shitty management can overcome great opportunity - anytime!
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Aaronp18 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 8:53 pm

Cornuck wrote: Shitty management can overcome great opportunity - anytime!
True, but I really don't believe we have shitty management.

Would it have been nice to grab a few more picks or prospects, without question. It's not a failure that we didn't though.

It's a detour. Same destination, just modifying the route!

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Cornuck » Tue Mar 01, 2016 9:20 pm

Aaronp18 wrote:
Cornuck wrote: Shitty management can overcome great opportunity - anytime!
True, but I really don't believe we have shitty management.

Would it have been nice to grab a few more picks or prospects, without question. It's not a failure that we didn't though.

It's a detour. Same destination, just modifying the route!
I don't think we do either, but I'm glad Edmonton does! :D
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by dbr » Wed Mar 02, 2016 7:46 am

Topper wrote:
TDA Rum wrote:People have to remember that there will be at least 15 teams in severe cap trouble next season, so there is the potential to get some really good deals via trade or signing other teams RFA's... Benning and Linden have a plan, just have to be patient until it all unfolds...
.....what 's the value of pierre junior' peso?
.....what will the cap be next year?
.....how much whining will the PA do about escrow?

Cap space is especially valuable heading into next season.......but don't tell the teabaggers. They won't listen.
Wait a minute. Hold on now. I'm not as dialed in as I used to be so maybe I need to be set straight here.

Cap space next season is valuable?

Someone tell that to the guy paying $12m+ of that season's cap sapce to Miller, Sbisa and Dorsett.

Or even just to the guys who've been claiming that a rebuilding team shouldn't be concerned about managing their cap well.

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Topper » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:42 am

dbr wrote:
Topper wrote:
TDA Rum wrote:People have to remember that there will be at least 15 teams in severe cap trouble next season, so there is the potential to get some really good deals via trade or signing other teams RFA's... Benning and Linden have a plan, just have to be patient until it all unfolds...
.....what 's the value of pierre junior' peso?
.....what will the cap be next year?
.....how much whining will the PA do about escrow?

Cap space is especially valuable heading into next season.......but don't tell the teabaggers. They won't listen.
Wait a minute. Hold on now. I'm not as dialed in as I used to be so maybe I need to be set straight here.

Cap space next season is valuable?

Someone tell that to the guy paying $12m+ of that season's cap sapce to Miller, Sbisa and Dorsett.

Or even just to the guys who've been claiming that a rebuilding team shouldn't be concerned about managing their cap well.
It is masterful cap management. Knowing exactly when cap space is necessary.

It is all about balance. Are you unbalanced?

You are ignoring the cap space freed up at season's end.

You are ignoring the cap space freed up at the end of next season.

Are you ignorant and unbalanced?
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by dbr » Wed Mar 02, 2016 9:55 am

What about next season? What about Dorsett and Sbisa's deals extending beyond it? I don't see the cap skyrocketing any time soon so they will probably be occupying about the same % of our space in 2017-18 that they will next year..

I agree that maintaining a good position under the cap is critical in building a winner, something that a contingent here scoffed at when people complained about those two deals.

I'm not ignoring the cap space we'll have in the summer (although I imagine that after re-signing Hamhuis there won't be a ton of it). I look forward to seeing what Benning does with his cap space in the offseason, it's going to be a buyer's market. It's a shame he won't have more...

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Groovypippin » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:13 am

If the cap stays the same or drops next season due to the low Canadian dollar, there may be some predatory advantage for a team like the Canucks with cap room. Look at a team like Tampa Bay that is brimming with talent and has UFA/RFA nightmares ahead. But this is why I would be completely opposed to resigning Hambuis unless we get an extreme hometown discount.

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Arachnid » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:51 am

rats19 wrote:
Aaronp18 wrote:
rats19 wrote:Fair enough ap.....how about the coach? Can we drive him to the airport? In the summer ?
Placeholder.

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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Arachnid » Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:54 am

Coilers we are not.

I like Jake's take http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040- ... s-1.446212

How else did the young'ns get better over the year? Rats says it wasn't the coaching so we have to look at the benefits of having leaders on the team. The Sedans (pun sarcasmed ) learned a lot from Markus...
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by rats19 » Wed Mar 02, 2016 12:11 pm

Arachnid wrote:Coilers we are not.

I like Jake's take http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040- ... s-1.446212

How else did the young'ns get better over the year? Rats says it wasn't the coaching so we have to look at the benefits of having leaders on the team. The Sedans (pun sarcasmed ) learned a lot from Markus...
*wiggle*
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Re: 2016 TRADE DEADLINE TRACKER

Post by Arachnid » Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:23 pm

rats19 wrote:
Arachnid wrote:Coilers we are not.

I like Jake's take http://www.tsn.ca/radio/vancouver-1040- ... s-1.446212

How else did the young'ns get better over the year? Rats says it wasn't the coaching so we have to look at the benefits of having leaders on the team. The Sedans (pun sarcasmed ) learned a lot from Markus...
*wiggle*
Lotsa wiggle room there Rattie...I guess the so called pundits didn't think about the intangibles....like people using gerbils for suburban fun ;)
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