The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna » Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:59 am

micky107 wrote:
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Welcome to the negotiations KID...


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Is the Matthews injury supposed to make Dubas panic? Kapanen has taken his spot and is scoring more than Nylander did. And JT and Kadri are terrific as the top 2 cs. This has no barring on nYlander's contract.

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:45 am

Frank Seravalli
#NHL announces multi-year partnership with MGM Resorts, becoming the first league to officially partner with sports book. MGM gets access to league's intellectual property (logos and more) and "advanced games data," according to Gary Bettman.

#NHLPA will share 50% of revenue generated from this partnership with MGM Resorts. To be clear this is fixed revenue, #NHL is not getting a cut of the book itsel


Good bye cap concerns!!!

Thanks Gary.

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by micky107 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:47 am

Wonder what the atmosphere around the team is like when Little Willie's name comes up in your standard team banter?
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Hockey Widow » Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:07 am

BigTuna wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:45 am
Frank Seravalli
#NHL announces multi-year partnership with MGM Resorts, becoming the first league to officially partner with sports book. MGM gets access to league's intellectual property (logos and more) and "advanced games data," according to Gary Bettman.

#NHLPA will share 50% of revenue generated from this partnership with MGM Resorts. To be clear this is fixed revenue, #NHL is not getting a cut of the book itsel


Good bye cap concerns!!!

Thanks Gary.

Wow, this could be huge for revenue. When does it kick in
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Hank » Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:53 pm

So the Flames are the best team in Canada?

Could you elaborate, Tuner?
Try to focus on 1 year from now...

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:02 pm

Hank wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:53 pm
So the Flames are the best team in Canada?

Could you elaborate, Tuner?
According to tuna logic... you are correct sir!
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Strangelove » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:03 pm

BigTuna wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:45 am
Frank Seravalli
#NHL announces multi-year partnership with MGM Resorts, becoming the first league to officially partner with sports book. MGM gets access to league's intellectual property (logos and more) and "advanced games data," according to Gary Bettman.

#NHLPA will share 50% of revenue generated from this partnership with MGM Resorts. To be clear this is fixed revenue, #NHL is not getting a cut of the book itsel


Good bye cap concerns!!!
In that case the asking $$ of Nylander/Matthews/Marner just jumped way up! :thumbs:
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Hank » Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:50 pm

Strangelove wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:02 pm
Hank wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:53 pm
So the Flames are the best team in Canada?

Could you elaborate, Tuner?
According to tuna logic... you are correct sir!
Leaves and their fans... good at premature celebrations.
Try to focus on 1 year from now...

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by BigTuna » Tue Oct 30, 2018 6:08 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:07 am
BigTuna wrote:
Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:45 am
Frank Seravalli
#NHL announces multi-year partnership with MGM Resorts, becoming the first league to officially partner with sports book. MGM gets access to league's intellectual property (logos and more) and "advanced games data," according to Gary Bettman.

#NHLPA will share 50% of revenue generated from this partnership with MGM Resorts. To be clear this is fixed revenue, #NHL is not getting a cut of the book itsel


Good bye cap concerns!!!

Thanks Gary.

Wow, this could be huge for revenue. When does it kick in

Now I believe. It'll show in next year's cap.

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Topper » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:22 am

I read a projection of $200 million/year. Raises the player's asking prices, increases the odds of an offersheet. Makes the battle for the pie all the more important i the CBA negotiations.

Still believe the odds makers don't know what they are doing?
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by micky107 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:50 am

NHL announces multi-year sports betting partnership with MGM

Bettman, NHL announces sports betting partnership with MGM
NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and MGM chairman Jim Murren announce a sports betting partnership, and discuss all the excitement and opportunity that will come out of this agreement.

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October 29, 2018, 11:10 AM

NEW YORK — The NHL announced a multiyear agreement Monday to provide MGM Resorts International with data for use in betting, the second major U.S. professional sports league to strike a deal with the casino giant since the Supreme Court opened the way to expanded gambling last spring.

Las Vegas-based MGM is the league’s first official sports betting partner, just as it is with the NBA and WNBA. That deal was reached in July.

As part of the agreement, MGM gains access to proprietary NHL data that could eventually include puck and player tracking information once that goes through a testing phase. Access to that data will allow MGM to provide customized game details along with betting opportunities for U.S. customers where gambling is legally available.

The NHL is not getting a cut of gambling profits, but other terms were not disclosed.

"The new sports betting landscape presents a unique opportunity for fan engagement utilizing technology and data that are exclusive to our league," NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman said. "Fan engagement, technological advancement and innovation are paramount to our progressive approach and will be at the forefront of everything we do."

Why Bettman, NHL had to do complete 180 on sports gambling
MGM and other casino operators are moving aggressively to be able to capitalize on the U.S. sports betting market, which is expanding after the Supreme Court ruled in May that states could take sports bets if they wanted. MGM has made a series of significant moves, including the multiyear deal with the NBA and WNBA.

Earlier this year, bookmaker William Hill reached agreements that allow odds and other promotional efforts at the home arenas of the Las Vegas Golden Knights and the New Jersey Devils.

"We couldn’t be more excited to enter into this historic partnership with the NHL," MGM Resorts Chairman and CEO Jim Murren said.

NHL executive vice-president and chief revenue officers Keith Wachtel said being able to provide enhanced data and analytics to MGM will allow "some creative and unique things that don’t really exist in the sport right now."

"The more data and analytics that a gaming operator can have, the better it will be in enabling them to set odds," Wachtel told The Associated Press. "Whether or not they’re using the data for actual purposes of creating prop bets and things like that certainly is something (that’s possible). But more importantly, they’re going to use it to be able to set odds and proper odds that they’re going to be able to create."

Friedman Makes sense of NHL’s new partnership with MGM
Some leagues, including the Major League Baseball and the NBA, had called for an "integrity fee" — essentially, states would give leagues a cut of the money wagered on their games to pay for expanded monitoring of suspicious betting and to protect their intellectual property. The effort has been largely unsuccessful thus far.

"We have no concerns about the integrity of our game, of our players, our officials," Wachtel said. "We’ve never had an issue. Secondly, the integrity of the sports betting landscape is just as important to the bookmakers, which is why the NHL does not have a discussion and we don’t talk about this notion of integrity fees."

Scott Butera, MGM Resorts’ president of interactive gaming and a former Arena Football League commissioner, outlined how the puck and playing tracking data will help bettors.

"If I know one player is faster than the other, if I know one expends less energy than the other, if I know one has a faster slap shot than the other, it gives me information that I can bet," he said. "If I’m betting on who will score the most goals, I have that tool. Ultimately when enough data is collected on that, we’ll be able to actually bet on that data itself. So you could have a bet on which player’s going to have the highest average slap shot throughout the game."

Butera said MGM believes expanded sports betting will eventually be available in 25 to 30 states. The 24 U.S.-based NHL teams play in 18 different states, with seven more in Canada. The league is moving toward adding a 32nd team, in Seattle and what would be its 19th state (Washington).

Mick; All I want to know is what does this mean for US I mean Canada?????
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by ESQ » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:05 am

IF the deal reaches projections - and the $200 million/year comes from a report Bettman commissioned as potential gaming revenue, not the revenue from this deal to license logos and stats - that would be around $3 mil in cap space.

NHL does not get a share of gaming profits, they're only licensing their logos and stats. I would be very surprised if MGM thinks that would be worth $200 million a year.

But I guess that extra $3 mil in cap space would be enough to bridge the gap in the Nylander negotiations :lol:

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Hockey Widow » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:00 am

ESQ wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:05 am
IF the deal reaches projections - and the $200 million/year comes from a report Bettman commissioned as potential gaming revenue, not the revenue from this deal to license logos and stats - that would be around $3 mil in cap space.

NHL does not get a share of gaming profits, they're only licensing their logos and stats. I would be very surprised if MGM thinks that would be worth $200 million a year.

But I guess that extra $3 mil in cap space would be enough to bridge the gap in the Nylander negotiations :lol:
Well....they aren’t really getting paid a licensing fee. The NHL can’t, for optics, take a cut of gambling revenue. But they can say, let’s project gambling revenue and our cut will be called a licensing fee. But they won’t say that. They’ll say they negotiated hard for a fair licensing fee. What went into those negotiations will remain confidential.
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

Post by Topper » Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:08 am

Hockey Widow wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:00 am
ESQ wrote:
Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:05 am
IF the deal reaches projections - and the $200 million/year comes from a report Bettman commissioned as potential gaming revenue, not the revenue from this deal to license logos and stats - that would be around $3 mil in cap space.

NHL does not get a share of gaming profits, they're only licensing their logos and stats. I would be very surprised if MGM thinks that would be worth $200 million a year.

But I guess that extra $3 mil in cap space would be enough to bridge the gap in the Nylander negotiations :lol:
Well....they aren’t really getting paid a licensing fee. The NHL can’t, for optics, take a cut of gambling revenue. But they can say, let’s project gambling revenue and our cut will be called a licensing fee. But they won’t say that. They’ll say they negotiated hard for a fair licensing fee. What went into those negotiations will remain confidential.
Leagues have been asking for a cut for a long time. They phrase it as a fee to police monitor their players and managements against being corrupted like Indian cricketers. It isn't the game outcome as much as the side bets that can be manufactured.

That policing fee idea has never gone anywhere.
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