The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote:remind me why the Corrado situation was against the rules?
Who said the Corrado situation was against the rules?

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote:remind me why the Corrado situation was against the rules?
I'm not saying it was against the rules, but rather against the "rules"

How do you send a player down on a conditioning stint when he isn't hurt, wasn't hurt and has never stepped on the ice for you in a game?

They're hoarding a dman when he could be of use to another team. They are slowing down his development as well.
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Hockey Widow wrote:
Rayxor wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
You do not know the first thing about Toronto.
The Widow is FROM Toronto.

:mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Guess that means I know a thing or two, eh?
Also, the article didn't say anything that contradicted you. I don't recall you slamming ANY city about its urban planning or revitalization projects.
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Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote:remind me why the Corrado situation was against the rules?
Who said the Corrado situation was against the rules?

Why are you named after a Penguin?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nh ... /77069928/

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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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olpaddy wrote:
Strangelove wrote:
BigTuna wrote:remind me why the Corrado situation was against the rules?
Who said the Corrado situation was against the rules?

Why are you named after a Penguin?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nh ... /77069928/

I got your 91 jersey on order big boy...
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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vic wrote:
BigTuna wrote:remind me why the Corrado situation was against the rules?
I'm not saying it was against the rules, but rather against the "rules"

How do you send a player down on a conditioning stint when he isn't hurt, wasn't hurt and has never stepped on the ice for you in a game?

They're hoarding a dman when he could be of use to another team. They are slowing down his development as well.
Fact: According to NHl rules, a Player does not need to be "Hurt" to be sent down for a conditioning stint. So what's your point?
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Stamkos is is going to want a seven year deal for 80 million. Definitely makes the Sedins deals look like a bargain .
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Blob Mckenzie wrote:Stamkos is is going to want a seven year deal for 80 million. Definitely makes the Sedins deals look like a bargain .
I hope Yzerman trades him to the leaves for a pair of 1st round picks and a solid player and prospect.

leaves then sign him to Toews money for 8 years.

Stamkos is a really good player, but the bottom line is that he is a faster version of Brett Hull. Stamkos has better hands and a little better passer, but he needs that other guy. He needs his "Marty".
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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BigTuna wrote:
Fact: According to NHl rules, a Player does not need to be "Hurt" to be sent down for a conditioning stint. So what's your point?
Its fine, the Laffs have opened the door for the Canucks to do the same thing now with Virtanen.

What was once extremely rare (conditioning stint for players riding the pine) has all of a sudden become in vogue - Corrado, Tinordi, Virtanen, Jurco, Smid, etc.

I personally think its shady that a team (ie the Laffs) does this with a player they've plucked off waivers and is able to avoid putting him back on waivers for 2 months, but apparently not against the rules.
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ESQ wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
Fact: According to NHl rules, a Player does not need to be "Hurt" to be sent down for a conditioning stint. So what's your point?
Its fine, the Laffs have opened the door for the Canucks to do the same thing now with Virtanen.

What was once extremely rare (conditioning stint for players riding the pine) has all of a sudden become in vogue - Corrado, Tinordi, Virtanen, Jurco, Smid, etc.

I personally think its shady that a team (ie the Laffs) does this with a player they've plucked off waivers and is able to avoid putting him back on waivers for 2 months, but apparently not against the rules.
Virtanen is coming off an injury. That was the intent. Not to use it like the leaves with Corrado and Bernier. It is an abuse but not against the rules, for now. The Corrado camp is very upset. Players feeling it is being abused plus the NHL feeling it is being abused will lead to a tightening of the rules.
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ESQ wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
Fact: According to NHl rules, a Player does not need to be "Hurt" to be sent down for a conditioning stint. So what's your point?
Its fine, the Laffs have opened the door for the Canucks to do the same thing now with Virtanen.

What was once extremely rare (conditioning stint for players riding the pine) has all of a sudden become in vogue - Corrado, Tinordi, Virtanen, Jurco, Smid, etc.

I personally think its shady that a team (ie the Laffs) does this with a player they've plucked off waivers and is able to avoid putting him back on waivers for 2 months, but apparently not against the rules.
Not to help out the fish, but before you throw stones, remember the Canucks did the conditioning stint thing with Horvat last year as well. Pretty sure that was a bit of a work around of the rules as well.
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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No matter how dead this forum gets, the leaves thread stays bumping huh guys. So fucking lame.

I can't believe half the posts a day on this site are about Corrado. You do realize he sucks right? :lol:
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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isle_nuck wrote:
ESQ wrote:
BigTuna wrote:
Fact: According to NHl rules, a Player does not need to be "Hurt" to be sent down for a conditioning stint. So what's your point?
Its fine, the Laffs have opened the door for the Canucks to do the same thing now with Virtanen.

What was once extremely rare (conditioning stint for players riding the pine) has all of a sudden become in vogue - Corrado, Tinordi, Virtanen, Jurco, Smid, etc.

I personally think its shady that a team (ie the Laffs) does this with a player they've plucked off waivers and is able to avoid putting him back on waivers for 2 months, but apparently not against the rules.
Not to help out the fish, but before you throw stones, remember the Canucks did the conditioning stint thing with Horvat last year as well. Pretty sure that was a bit of a work around of the rules as well.
No they didn't. Horvat was coming off a shoulder injury. He got injured before they could determine if they were going to keep him or return him to junior. After his recovery they decided to get him a conditioning stint so they could then bring him back to Vancouver. As I said , the intent of the conditioning stint is to send players to the AHL after coming off injuries to help them, well recondition, before inserting them back into the line up. It has never been intended to be used the way the leaves have been using it. In fact, with junior eligible players, conditioning stints have been denied by the NHL when teams have tried to use it for non injured reassignments. See Buffalo.

Toronto is using it for players like Corrado and Bernier to avoid waivers. It would better past the smell test, in Corrado's case, if they inserted him into the leaves line up once he returned.
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Re: The Official CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

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Rumsfeld wrote:No matter how dead this forum gets, the leaves thread stays bumping huh guys. So fucking lame.

I can't believe half the posts a day on this site are about Corrado. You do realize he sucks right? :lol:
I had a buddy losing his mind when they lost Corrado, how screwed the Canucks were, blah blah blah.

I reminded him he was the 9th-best defenseman on the team.

Didn't hear much from him again :lol:

No doubt though, he's the most talked-about #9 dman since Rory Fitzpatrick!
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