The Official Dave Ayres CC "All Thing Leaves" thread

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Kessel just finished with the 3rd best fitness test on the leaves.

If this is true, it's pretty impressive for a guy who shows up to golf tournaments in the summer with a beer belly and eats cookies all day during the season.

[rats19]

This thread is one of my greatest gifts to humanity.

Yeah it's right up there with making yours truly a mod.

Lil humility boys a Lil humility...

[Strangelove]

It's hard to put any stock into the decision making prowess of an organization that makes Dion Phaneuf its captain til 2020/21 and dedicates 5.25M of cap space till 2019/20 to David Clarkson for ONE 30 goal season.

I think that's called being out of touch with reality.

Yup, there's a massive reality distortion field at the centre of the universe...

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Leaves lose 2-1 to BJs.

Bottom line (the Leaves) are making the playoffs.

Don't count your chickens Tunafish.

Since the above was posted (Olympic break) Leaves have 2 points in 3 games.

And they're soon headed for the tough part of their schedule.


BLOW LEAVES BLOW!!!

The playoffs are a lock for the leaves.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

Lil humility boys a Lil humility...

*LOL*

I will say this about Kessel though. I thought Burkie was off his rocker when he traded 2 1st rounders for Kessel. Kessel turned out to be a consistent top goal scorer for the leaves and he still has a shit load of goals still left in him at just 26. Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton are good players, but the Bs gave up on Seguin due to his inconsistency. Seguin does seems to be coming around in Dallas though. I'd say the trade is pretty fair for both teams atm.

[Island Nucklehead]

Lil humility boys a Lil humility...

*LOL*

I will say this about Kessel though. I thought Burkie was off his rocker when he traded 2 1st rounders for Kessel. Kessel turned out to be a consistent top goal scorer for the leaves and he still has a shit load of goals still left in him at just 26. Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton are good players, but the Bs gave up on Seguin due to his inconsistency. Seguin does seems to be coming around in Dallas though. I'd say the trade is pretty fair for both teams atm.

If the leaves had Seguin and Hamilton, they'd be far better off than they are right now. Bozak is not a top-line Centre. Seguin is. Hamilton (6'5, 21 years old) would be a MAJOR building block for a D that already includes promising youngsters in Morgan Rielly and Jake Gardiner.

A major reason for that trade was Burke's desire to rebuild quickly. Since that trade they leaves have played 7 playoff games (in a lockout year). The teams' results certainly indicate Burke didn't accomplish what he wanted to with that deal. Sure, Kessel scores a lot of goals. For all that offence, his team doesn't seem to be much better for it.

[Strangelove]

I'd say the trade is pretty fair for both teams atm.

LOL.... no.

Superstars Seguin/Hamilton are 5/6 years younger than Phat Phil.

Either one of them alone is worth more than Eat Yer Phil.

As a Leaf-hater I'm so glad Burkie is Burkie.

And Nonis is Burkie Version Two.

Please Leaves, keep this trend going.

[mathonwy]

Lil humility boys a Lil humility...

*LOL*

I will say this about Kessel though. I thought Burkie was off his rocker when he traded 2 1st rounders for Kessel. Kessel turned out to be a consistent top goal scorer for the leaves and he still has a shit load of goals still left in him at just 26. Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton are good players, but the Bs gave up on Seguin due to his inconsistency. Seguin does seems to be coming around in Dallas though. I'd say the trade is pretty fair for both teams atm.

Still a pretty bad trade.

If the Laughs had just remained patient, they would be miles ahead of where they are right now.

You only make this trade if the last piece of puzzle for your team to win the SC is a sniper. And even then, you think long and hard on giving up what ended up being the second overall pick.

Ok, I'm officially over Mondi's 2009 Canuck draft pity party.

Thanks Cornuck!!

[BigTuna]

Lil humility boys a Lil humility...

*LOL*

I will say this about Kessel though. I thought Burkie was off his rocker when he traded 2 1st rounders for Kessel. Kessel turned out to be a consistent top goal scorer for the leaves and he still has a shit load of goals still left in him at just 26. Tyler Seguin and Dougie Hamilton are good players, but the Bs gave up on Seguin due to his inconsistency. Seguin does seems to be coming around in Dallas though. I'd say the trade is pretty fair for both teams atm.

Still a pretty bad trade.

If the Laughs had just remained patient, they would be miles ahead of where they are right now.

You only make this trade if the last piece of puzzle for your team to win the SC is a sniper. And even then, you think long and hard on giving up what ended up being the second overall pick.

Ok, I'm officially over Mondi's 2009 Canuck draft pity party.

Thanks Cornuck!!

How are they miles ahead with Seguin and Hamilton and no Kessel?

And Kessel isn't just a goal scorer. He gets a lot of assists every season. He's a fantastic all around offensive player.

[BigTuna]

I'd say the trade is pretty fair for both teams atm.

LOL.... no.

Superstars Seguin/Hamilton are 5/6 years younger than Phat Phil.

Either one of them alone is worth more than Eat Yer Phil.

As a Leaf-hater I'm so glad Burkie is Burkie.

And Nonis is Burkie Version Two.

Please Leaves, keep this trend going.

If Hamilton is a superstar, so is Gardiner, Rielly and Phaneuf.

I remember when Jared Knight alone was going to be better "Overall" than Phil. His hype was embarrassing. Now no one even remembers him.

[BigTuna]

Exactly. They're the exact same player. Kane just plays with better teammates. Kessel scores more with less.

LOL! Yep. Exactly the same.

So won more trophies because of the team he is on. That point has been made.

Marcel Dionne is one of the greatest players ever BTW.

[Strangelove]

How are they miles ahead with Seguin and Hamilton and no Kessel?

And Kessel isn't just a goal scorer. He gets a lot of assists every season. He's a fantastic all around offensive player.

He's "offensive"... PERIOD!

I'm so happy Leavers are happy with Phil Kessel... and happy with the trade!

Don't ever change Tuna & Co!!

Now..... predictions for the Leaves upcoming season?

[BigTuna]

How are they miles ahead with Seguin and Hamilton and no Kessel?

And Kessel isn't just a goal scorer. He gets a lot of assists every season. He's a fantastic all around offensive player.

He's "offensive"... PERIOD!

I'm so happy Leavers are happy with Phil Kessel... and happy with the trade!

Don't ever change Tuna & Co!!

Now..... predictions for the Leaves upcoming season?

Boston were geniuses to trade Seguin then?

I remember Western hockey fans telling me we knew nothing of superstar Loui Eriksson. Just wait!

[Strangelove]

Boston were geniuses to trade Seguin then?

Every hockey fan in his right mind would rather have Seguin + Hamilton over Phat Phil.

If you didn't get yourself into these arguments, perhaps you wouldn't feel so compelled to move the goalposts.

[Todd Bersnoozi]

How are they miles ahead with Seguin and Hamilton and no Kessel?

And Kessel isn't just a goal scorer. He gets a lot of assists every season. He's a fantastic all around offensive player.

I will say this, it's a lot harder to get a top sniper than an offensive minded centre and/or a good 2-way D man. There's only a few top snipers in the league (not every team even has 1), while there's a bushel full of offensive centres and 2-way D men (just about every team has a few of those guys).

[Meds]

Nobody is uncoachable. You just need a coach that is smarter than the player

And comparing Phaneuf to Shea Weber is comparing apples and kiwis. Phaneuf commands ZERO respect in this league. He's a joke. I saw it in the 24/7 series and I've seen it in All Star games which leads to my rotten apple core hypothesis about the Laughs.

Ummmm.....I've met, and played with, plenty of people who are uncoachable. It has nothing to do with how smart or stupid a coach is. It comes down to the player being willing to accept advice. If a player thinks he knows better than everyone else, then nobody can tell him what to do.

To say nobody is uncoachable is a bit naive.