duh, this is what actually transpired as documented in the thread cited below ... for the reader's convenience the more relevant points have been bolded:Blob Mckenzie wrote:Umm no i didn't say that GM. I said there were many high end talents coming up in the 2015 draft. Please don't be a liar as well as a troll. If these idiots would stop quoting you I wouldn't have to read your trolling posts.Betamax wrote:Yes. Please stop trolling this thread.Blob Mckenzie wrote:I'm done here. Troll is a troll.
This is eerily similar to the bullshit you tried to pull in a previous thread where you implied that McDavid and Eichel weren't the consensus top 2 picks in next year's draft and when called out, you wouldn't provide a link to a reputable scouting services that supported your argument and used that lame ass do a "google search" excuse.
http://canuckscorner.com/forums/viewtop ... &start=330
by Betamax » Fri May 23, 2014 3:12 pm:
Now for some reason, a rather disrespectful Blob chirps » Sat May 24, 2014 2:57 pmBetamax wrote:I don't think no matter how hard they try, even if they could re-hire the late Bill Laforge, could they finish with the worst record next season to essentially guarantee themselves one of two future "superstars."Rumsfeld wrote:^^ They'll be getting a lot more playoff revenue if they tear it down and get top value now, before a wicked draft.
Hopefully the Francesco fuckups of yesteryear have convinced him to butt out.
Why the fuck did Blob resort to name-calling when what I stated was virtually indisputable?Blob Mckenzie wrote:Hey Betapus the 2015 draft is 8-10 deep not 2 .
Anyway, Betamax replies » Sat May 24, 2014 5:21 pm:
Then there were a couple of follow-ups:Betamax wrote:YOU MAD, BRO?Blob Mckenzie wrote:Hey Betapus the 2015 draft is 8-10 deep not 2 .
Learn to read ... there are two, not 8-10 can't miss "superstar" type players that even the Canucks' Scouting Staff couldn't fuck up if they had the chance to pick either one.
BTW, Don't you open your mouth about the best, or I'm gonna shut it for you real quick!!! TAI ........
Betamax wrote:Maybe you should educate yourself and stop being a whiny little internet dawg with a Napoleon complex and understand that there are two players that stand out from the crowd and are not just projected to be "stars" but franchise changing superstars. Know the difference.Blob Mckenzie wrote:Maybe educate yourself about the 2015 draft. It is compared to the 2003 draft which has produced a dozen star players. The team should be a bubble team if they play up to their potential. However injuries, indifferent play and trading a few key players with an eye on the future should put the Canucks in bottom 5 territory.
There will be ten or 12 stars in the 2015 draft. Your rambling on about there only being two such players illlustrates your lack of knowledge on the matter. Maybe google the names Strome, Konecny or Barzal to name a few.
Stick to puppets and catch phrases from nasally radio hosts.
Like the 2004 Draft.
Or maybe look at the 2008 Draft. There's a difference between No. 1 overall, Stamkos and No. 10 overall, Hodgson. One a proven "Superstar," the other has a chance to be a "star" player.
Betamax wrote:What "mock" drafts are you referring to? The one from those wannabe MSM on the Internet that you religiously follow? LOL.Blob Mckenzie wrote:Yawn..... like dealing with a little child. At the moment Mcdavid and Eichel are SLIGHTLY ahead of the pack . The gap betwen them and about 5 or 6 others is narrowing. Some mock drafts have Eichel going 4th with Hanifin going 2nd.
As i said educate yourself and maybe stick to sock puppets and catchy one liners from unfunny TEAM 1040 jocksniffers.
Anyway, that mythical "google search" to find a mock draft that supports Blob's rather dubious claims that suggested a credible drafting service(s) did not think McDavid and Eichel were projected to be the top 2 picks right now, was and is as likely as OJ finding the "real killers" when he was still a free man and did his search by working on his Golf Game at various courses. That's why when I asked Blob to specifically provide a link to back up his claims, he obfuscated like a poster who got exposed for who he really is.Betamax wrote:LINK to the one(s) you feel are credible. Else, you are all talk and no action and just a whiny little dawg. No offense, BTW.Blob Mckenzie wrote:Google is your friend Captain
I would like to follow this up, and not only at the time of that exchanged did my own "google search" but went old school and yahoo'ed and also bing search it but could not the results that Blob had stated.
Curious that. Seems like a another case of intellectual dishonesty.
Countdown to talent-filled 2015 NHL Draft begins
Saturday, 06.28.2014 / 8:55 PM / 2014 NHL Draft - Philadelphia - June 27-28, 2014
By Mike G. Morreale - NHL.com Staff Writer
I also did a follow up to see what the current 2015 NHL "Mock Draft" rankings are from some sites and this is what I've found:PHILADELPHIA -- The conclusion of the 2014 NHL Draft at Wells Fargo Center signals the official opening of the Connor McDavid-Jack Eichel sweepstakes for the 2015 event at BB&T Center in Sunrise, Fla.
In a draft that looks to be loaded with talent across the board, McDavid of the Erie Otters in the Ontario Hockey League and Eichel, who will be a freshman at Boston University in Hockey East, will be the two headliners.
via: http://www.torontosun.com/2014/06/26/fo ... -nhl-draft
Forward thinking: Previewing the 2015 NHL draft
By Mike Zeisberger ,Toronto Sun
First posted: Thursday, June 26, 2014 08:58 PM EDT | Updated: Thursday, June 26, 2014 10:17 PM EDT
via: insider.espn.go.com/blog/nhl-draft/McDavid, Eichel and Marner are all projected to be top 10 picks in the 2015 draft. And while Eichel’s stock has gained so much traction in the past few months that some scouts feel he might get consideration to go No. 1, the unofficial name for the 2015 draft is “The Conner McDavid Sweepstakes.” It’s been that way for the past couple of years.
Sun Media spent the past few weeks canvassing various scouts, NHL execs and junior hockey officials for their opinions on how the Class of 2015 might play out. After compiling the info, here’s a peek into our crystal ball.
2015 Mock Draft
1. Connor McDavid C Erie (OHL) 5-foot-11, 170 lbs
2. Jack Eichel C US-Under-18 (USAH-NTDP) 6-foot-1, 185 lbs
3. Noah Hanifin D St. Sebastian’s School (HS-MA) 6-foot-3, 195 lbs
4. Kyle Connor C Youngstown (USHL) 6-foot-0, 160 lbs
5. Colin White C Noble & Greenough School (HS-MA) 6-foot-0, 175 lbs
6. Mitch Marner C London (OHL) 5-foot-10, 163 lbs
7. Travis Konecny C Ottawa 67’s (OHL) 5-foot-9, 162 lbs.
8. Oliver Kylington D Farjestads BK (SEL) 6-foot-1, 178 lbs.
9. Mikko Rantanen C TPS Turku (SM-liiga) 6-foot-4, 195 lbs
10. Zack Werenski D US-Under-17 (USAH-NTDP) 6-foot-2” 210 lbs.
Top 10 prospects for 2015
June, 30, 2014
By Corey Pronman | ESPN.com
Mr. Pronman suggests it's McDavid and the next three players. As for the top 10 list, well, you have to be insider, and I'm an outsider.The 2015 NHL draft class contains four elite prospects, although there is a clear separation between Connor McDavid and the next three players. The draft is being promoted as a "superdraft" comparable to 2003, but I think that's a stretch at this point. There are still plenty of question marks on plenty of prospects, as talented as they may be, which is why projecting a draft's strength when most of the players are 16 years old is extremely difficult.
Now, the one link that all search engines returned when I typed "2015 NHL Mock Draft" was this site:
by Bill Placzek aka TheREALWiz on twitter (allegedly)
Okay, as I journey'ed on to see if there is any 2015 Mock NHL Drafts that supported Blob's seemingly dubious claims, I went as far as searching hfboards for God's Sake, and found a mock draft there from an hfboard user that claims to be an NHL Draft "Expert" aka jawallstar1 (lol) and like the rest of the mock drafts that I could find, had McDavid/Eichel as a 1-2 right now:Skip To Round: 1 • 2 • 3
1 Connor McDavid C Erie (OHL) 5' 11" 170
2 Jack Eichel C US-Under-18 (USAH-NTDP) 6' 1" 185
3 Noah Hanifin D St. Sebastian's School (HS-MA) 6' 3" 195
4 Matthew Barzal C Seattle (WHL) 5' 11" 165
5 Colin White C Noble & Greenough School (HS-MA) 6' 0" 175
6 Oliver Kylington D Farjestads BK (SEL) 6' 1" 178
7 Pavel Zacha LW Liberec White Tigers (Czech) 6' 2" 196
8 Mikko Rantanen C TPS Turku (SM-liiga) 6' 4" 195
9 Zack Werenski D US-Under-17 (USAH-NTDP) 6' 2" 210
10 Mitch Marner C London (OHL) 5' 10" 163
via: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showt ... ?t=1656505
Anyway, as a bonus (at no additional cost), I've added a related poll question of the thread. (How good is that?)REALLY EARLY 2015 NHL Draft Rankings
Okay, so I have gotten a little bored talking about this year's draft, and that's coming from a Buffalo fan!
I have not included Goaltenders in these rankings, so please don't point that out (obviously, I know). I haven't done a lot of research so I was wondering if I could get some feedback and maybe some good sources (I know EP and HF but that's about it) especially for Europeans.
1.) Connor McDavid, C, Erie (OHL)
2.) Jack Eichel, C, Boston University (NCAA)
3.) Travis Konecny, C, Ottawa (OHL)
4.) Mathew Barzal, C, Seattle (WHL)
5.) Dylan Strome, C, Erie (OHL)
6.) Noah Hanifin, D, USA NTDP (USHL)
7.) Mitchell Marner, C, London (OHL)
8.) Colin White, RW, USA NTDP (USHL)
9.) Nicolas Roy, RW, Chicoutimi (QMJHL)
10.) Zach Werenski, D, USA NTDP (USHL)
FYI, for the purposes of the poll, an under 25 year old Top 6F, for example, would be someone like Cody Hodgson, a Top 4D would be someone like a Tyler Myers.