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Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:01 pm
by Rede
SKYO wrote:Would any of you trade Horvat + for Johansen?
If you target Johansen, it becomes a log-jam at C with a roster also consisting of Hank, Sutter, Horvat and McCann for the next 3 seasons. Unless you're going to move Sutter to the wing permanently you almost have to move one... but I'm not sure I like trading young and inexpensive character guy for another guy who has already had a contract dispute and has fitness concerns.

If you're starting with Sutter+ I'm listening of course, but CBJ likely isn't unless it's Torts' call... and Sutter probably wants none of that anyways with his NTC. (I recall a lot of talk in the offseason about Sutter not wanting to move around so much.)

Also... we may have a serious shot at winning the Matthews sweepstakes at this rate... so if I'm thinking about targeting Johansen it's probably not til after the draft lottery.

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:19 pm
by Meds
SKYO wrote:IF Lucic wants to come to Vancity, it'll happen.

Would any of you trade Horvat + for Johansen?

Ryan Johansen - 6'3, 223lbs, 23 yrs old, right handed shot whose already cracked 70 points in a season and he's from Vancouver?

Sedin
Johansen
Sutter
McCann

When Sedins retire in a few years, Johansen would only be 26 years old for our #1 center with McCann #2.
I wouldn't touch Johansen right now. Too many rumoured off-ice issues.

Granted, he's now playing for Torts the Destroyer, but health issues away from hockey, and whatever else.....pass for now. Especially because Johansen would cost MORE than just Bo.

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:31 pm
by Topper
as Hirsch note, Johansen needs to grow up.

This has Zach problem child written all over it. I'm sure Blobby will chime in and list the # of coaches he's had through his career as the issue.

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:35 pm
by Doyle Hargraves
Canucks don't have the assets to pull off the trade .

Columbus would want Tanev which would open up a huge hole on the blue line . Robbing Peter to pay Paul basically . Stay the course and play for the pick .

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:29 pm
by the toucan kid
Would any of you trade Horvat + for Johansen?

Ryan Johansen - 6'3, 223lbs, 23 yrs old, right handed shot whose already cracked 70 points in a season and he's from Vancouver?
Of course you would. Horvat has been dog shit this season if you had hopes for him being a high-upside player. For all we know he might be a bust who is nothing more than a journeyman center. Why the fuck would Columbus do that? Tanev is all we have that can land top-tier talent.
Unless you're going to move Sutter to the wing permanently you almost have to move one... but I'm not sure I like trading young and inexpensive character guy for another guy who has already had a contract dispute and has fitness concerns.
When they're in their early 20s I will take a guy with fitness concerns over talent concerns any day.

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:24 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Massive red flags regarding Johansen. Health issues regarding his heart, lazy, poor diet, overweight, off ice issues, poor preparation, lack of dedication. Stay the fuck away

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:29 pm
by The_Pauser
RoyalDude wrote:Massive red flags regarding Johansen. Health issues regarding his heart, lazy, poor diet, overweight, off ice issues, poor preparation, lack of dedication. Stay the fuck away
Stay the fuck away from a 1C? LOL

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:40 pm
by Doyle Hargraves
RoyalDude wrote:Massive red flags regarding Johansen. Health issues regarding his heart, lazy, poor diet, overweight, off ice issues, poor preparation, lack of dedication. Stay the fuck away
A poor diet ? Really ?? This is coming from a guy who used to eat most of his meals in the Downtown Eastside. That's rich Pacific Blue . I can remember you raving about all the good meals you used to enjoy at the Patricia .

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:45 pm
by The_Pauser
Since 2013-14 (when Johansen became a 1C) he's averaged almost the same PPG as Henrik, and has a higher GPG. The guy is a legit 1C and he's only 23 years old. But hey, RD says let's stay away from him so I guess it's best to continue picking from the bottom of the barrel.

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:49 pm
by SKYO
As long as RyJo doesn't have a drug addiction, a team can easily get their trainers/chefs to whip a player into shape.

And as a backup plan, all the canucks gotta do is draft his bro Marcus and they'll push each other to eat right/workout. :P

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:11 pm
by Strangelove
SKYO wrote:As long as RyJo doesn't have a drug addiction...
Are you insinuating Pauser has a drug addiction?? :shock:

ARE YOU??!! :evil:

Butt seriously, something's rotten in Columbus...

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:19 pm
by Rumsfeld
They should keep RyJo and shitcan Torts before it's too late. I hear he's attending practices this year though, so I guess that's a plus. :lol:

So hilarious that little piece of shit has the stones to question someone else's professional commitment.

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:24 pm
by Strangelove
Rumsfeld wrote: So hilarious that little piece of shit has the stones to question someone else's professional commitment.
:lol:

Yup...

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:46 pm
by Chef Boi RD
Me thinks Johsnsens heart scare messed with his head as it would for a lot of people and so the drive may not be there as much as it was when he was tearing it up. It's an interesting scenario to say the least that reminds me of when Seguin was having issues with Boston party scene. Stars took the gamble and won but it could have gone as similarly as Mike Richards/Zack Kassian. In the end Seguin needed the wake up call via a trade. Could work similarity with Johsnsen but this is more about health affecting a player than party town

Re: Trades and rumours (& fantasies) 2014-15

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 5:43 pm
by Topper
With JD unequivocally backing up Torts on this....