July 1, 2014, (and beyond) trades, signings , rumours

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Re: July 1, 2014, (and beyond) trades, signings , rumours

Post by Reefer2 » Sun Aug 10, 2014 7:43 pm

I actually feel sorry for the dude, for the amount he can post here he must not have a life outside this site.

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Post by Betamax » Mon Aug 11, 2014 9:17 am

Reefer2 wrote:I actually feel sorry for the dude, for the amount he can post here he must not have a life outside this site.

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Post by damonberryman » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:08 pm

wtf is this thread about? I have engaged in a couple of board meltdowns over the last three years (hello Blob) but this constant 'I'm right, no you're right, no I'm right (see inserted article from the respected journal called "Dicks and Hockey)" is kind of pointless and boring. No offense intended but where do you get the energy? Is Cocaine involved or Crank? Careful. They lie to you them drugs.

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Post by Cornuck » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:13 pm

Yeah - I think we're getting back on track now. It's been a boring summer outside of the draft and a couple of signings...

Should we change this thread to just trades and signings and make a separate thread for rumours?

Last year's 'trades and signings' thread was 95% rumours, so I renamed it. Is it possible to keep reality and speculation in separate threads?
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Post by Strangelove » Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:18 pm

damonberryman wrote:wtf is this thread about? I have engaged in a couple of board meltdowns over the last three years (hello Blob) but this constant 'I'm right, no you're right, no I'm right (see inserted article from the respected journal called "Dicks and Hockey)" is kind of pointless and boring. No offense intended but where do you get the energy? Is Cocaine involved or Crank? Careful. They lie to you them drugs.
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What the hell else are we supposed to do in the summertime DBM?

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Post by Topper » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:53 pm

Cornuck wrote:Is it possible to keep reality and speculation in separate threads?
I would hate to speculate on that.
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Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Sep 14, 2014 2:16 am

Not wanting to legitimize Eklund but....

Heard tonight that the Jets have approached several teams about moving Kane. He has all but demanded a trade, whether he will publically say so I don't know. Last word he was getting pretty pissed and told some guys that if the media asked again about him wanting out of Winnipeg he was going to tell the truth as he was tired of the promises by the Jets that they would move him, for the right deal. He isn't threatening to sit at home or any such other action. He just wants out. His agent has told him the Jets have gone back to at least 7 teams who expressed serious interest in him and the Canucks are one of the teams.


Now I don't know how this translates for the Canucks. I know Benning did pitch an offer that included Lack/Markstrom, a top prospect, a roster player and a 2016 1st. I heard they were pitching Burrows because of cap concerns but I think it was a Garrison situation in that they never discussed it with Alex first. But I don't know if they still have interest at this point. There seems to still be interest but they are not as actively pursuing it as they were before the draft. I think they are stoked by their draft picks and don't want to let any of then go.

The only thing I know for sure is Winnipeg wants the 2015 1st. Don't know who else they have asked for. Sounds like they are talking but that they are too far apart over Kane's value. Interesting though that it has come up again and this info comes second hand from the Kane camp. So take it for what it's worth.......
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Post by SKYO » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:06 am

I'm just assuming it could be Shinkaruk (LW sniper), Burrows (the vet) and probably Lack, since we got Miller now....
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Post by Canuck-One » Sun Sep 14, 2014 7:49 am

Keep Shinkaruk, it looks like he will make it sooner rather than later. I hear a lot about the 2015 draft, but, is there someone in the spot the Canucks will be picking who shows more promise than what Kane has already displayed.

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Post by Hockey Widow » Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:38 am

SKYO wrote:I'm just assuming it could be Shinkaruk (LW sniper), Burrows (the vet) and probably Lack, since we got Miller now....

I'm not so sure Burrows would waive for a Winnipeg nor is he in that age group Winnipeg would want back. I think landing a Kane type means we have to move some cap which would be why the Canucks would be pitching his move, if they were.

I doubt Shinkaruk would be the prospect Winnipeg would want. I think more a Horvat or McCaan of Virtanen to start. But I'm guessing really.
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Post by Island Nucklehead » Sun Sep 14, 2014 12:42 pm

Hockey Widow wrote:
SKYO wrote:I'm just assuming it could be Shinkaruk (LW sniper), Burrows (the vet) and probably Lack, since we got Miller now....

I'm not so sure Burrows would waive for a Winnipeg nor is he in that age group Winnipeg would want back. I think landing a Kane type means we have to move some cap which would be why the Canucks would be pitching his move, if they were.

I doubt Shinkaruk would be the prospect Winnipeg would want. I think more a Horvat or McCaan of Virtanen to start. But I'm guessing really.
Yep. Let's be honest, nobody with an NTC, save maybe Hansen, is waiving to go to Winterpeg.

If it's true that Kane wants out, that play into Vancouver's hands, but there are bound to be other bidders in the process. If Edmonton offered Yakupov, could we match? Probably not. We don't have the one-for-one capability in that regard, so it would have to be a package.

The Jets would likely want one of Kassian/Horvat/Virtanen + 1st rounder, and I'm not sure the Canucks would do that. Guys like Hansen are throw-ins at that point.

Adding Kane would certainly help this team score goals, but I look at Jim Benning, who got rid of Seguin in Boston (right or wrong), and think that he's much more of a "team-first" kinda guy, and diva's like Kane don't really mesh with his idea of how this team should operate. It might be different if we drafted/developed him, having a chance to mould him etc., but moving significant assets to acquire him? Can't see Benning investing much effort in that, unless he gets the deal he's looking for.

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Re: July 1, 2014, (and beyond) trades, signings , rumours

Post by ClamRussel » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:31 pm

Pass. Stick to the plan.
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Post by Rede » Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:57 pm

ClamRussel wrote:Pass. Stick to the plan.
I agree, if the price for Kane is going to include a 1st, a top prospect and a roster player then it just doesn't make sense for us to deal for a guy on a 5m/yr contract who has some question marks about attitude. That said, if Kane has privately asked to be dealt and the Jets have said they'll try, then I'm not really surprised that Kane is a bit frustrated.

On the other hand, if there were a deal to be made involving a price of something like Gaunce, Hansen, Lack and a pick where we're dealing from positions of organizational depth then sure, you look at that. I compare this with what Kesler has done and he returned and don't think that it's a terrible offer for a guy who wants out of town.

That said, it sounds like Benning isn't willing to sell the farm and Winnipeg wants a hefty return. Hope Benning sticks to that plan and either passes on Kane or waits for the price to come down to something that makes sense for us. I'd rather wait for the young, cap-friendly kids to come along than trade our top prospects or next year's first rounder.

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