Mondi wrote:If you can't see how D. Sedin's value to the team has dminished, you're not being honest about it. If you are a winger and you don't score, you better PK and back check.
The post was always about value when they were traded--and that takes into account the circumstances. Why wouldn't it?
Kesler > Bertuzzi (Post-Moore he was nothing like the earlier season, bad attitude, no PK, no back check)
From 2001-2006, Bertuzzi averaged 1.026 ppg. He may not have been the same player "post-Moore", but he still put up 71 points in 82 games in his final season with the Canucks. Kesler's best season with the Canucks was 75 points in 82 games. If you take Kesler's best 4 seasons and stack them up next to Bert's, Ryan doesn't come close.
At the time of their respective departures, Bertuzzi was coming off of 71pts in 82gp, while Kesler was leaving behind 43pts in 77gp.
As for their attitudes, well they both sucked, apparently. Bert was always a brooding grump, but I never felt that his play suffered much from the Moore bullshit. When he returned to the ice it was Crawford who decided to split up him and Nazzy to create depth throughout the lineup, both of them saw a drop in production that can be attributed as much to that as anything else. Kesler's attitude off the ice is sounding like it was as much a cancer for this team as anything Bert's was.
As for Linden, look at his stats immediately before Iron Mike showed up, and look at what happened to his production with the Islanders to finish that season after he was traded. Then look at Linden's playoff production compared to Kesler's. He wasn't the same player after that season, but he was also relegated to 3rd and 4th line duties for a good chunk of his remaining career.
Your argument of value at time of trade doesn't stand up in this case at all.